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(please read post first, then vote) Do you trust wikipedia?

Yes
24
46%
No
8
15%
Not anymore I don't.
3
6%
I've never used it before.
1
2%
I don't really care, I've only used it a couple times.
12
23%
I don't care.
4
8%
 
Total votes: 52

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Post by Angel »

Woah, this is an old thread. My thoughts about Wikipedia have changed a bit since I actually posted this thread.

I use it quite frequently for many facts and/or people I don't know. But, I still don't use it for evidence. It's still cool though.

I am so trying that six click challenge thing. :)
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Angel wrote:Woah, this is an old thread. My thoughts about Wikipedia have changed a bit since I actually posted this thread.

I use it quite frequently for many facts and/or people I don't know. But, I still don't use it for evidence. It's still cool though.

I am so trying that six click challenge thing. :)
I must have missed something; what is the six click challenge?
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KODY 105 wrote:
Angel wrote:Woah, this is an old thread. My thoughts about Wikipedia have changed a bit since I actually posted this thread.

I use it quite frequently for many facts and/or people I don't know. But, I still don't use it for evidence. It's still cool though.

I am so trying that six click challenge thing. :)
I must have missed something; what is the six click challenge?
If you go back one page, you'll see what Selah suggested.
Basically, you go to wikipedia, hit the search arrow (without putting anything in), then go to the search on left of the page it brings you to, click on the 'Random Article'. Challenge: From that article you have only six clicks to try and get to an article about Hitler.

I got there in ten clicks. Starting from an article about British Columbia Highway 99A.
Edit: Eight clicks from an article on Poe, Indiana.
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I think there's actually a psuedo-official version somewhere in the more fun wikipedia: pages. They select two articles at random and you have to get from random article 1 to random article 2 in the least number of clicks.
...without editing them.
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That sounds interesting too. Where is that?
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I was just informed by my professor that I can't use Wikipedia as a reference for my senior project. :(
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Hmm, you bring up my personal topic. I am an active user there. On the English Wikipedia with 1,000+ edits, and the Simple English Wikipedia with 8,500+ and am an administrator.

I have reverted so much vandalism and added thousands of sources. No, I do not believe everything on it is true, but it has more collected information and facts than any other place, so I use and edit it often.
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Hmmm. What is Simple English Wikipedia as opposed to regular Wikipedia? :-k

EDIT: I followed your link and am looking around and it looks very... uneducated. :anxious:
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TC wrote:Hmmm. What is Simple English Wikipedia as opposed to regular Wikipedia? :-k
It is similar, but they use simpler words, shorter sentences, easier grammar and avoid multiple-meaning of words ("like" means many things, use "enjoyed" and "similar to," etc.) It was created for people who aren't very good in English, who are learning it, children, and others who don't like to have to research every other word on the English Wikipedia. I like it very much.
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That's a nice idea in theory but it has like... 2 sentences for things that should garner multiple paragraphs to only scratch the surface. :noway:
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TC wrote:That's a nice idea in theory but it has like... 2 sentences for things that should garner multiple paragraphs to only scratch the surface. :noway:
They don't even try to explain the Higg's Boson.
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TC wrote:That's a nice idea in theory but it has like... 2 sentences for things that should garner multiple paragraphs to only scratch the surface. :noway:
That's kind of the whole idea. It's not for people like you, it's for little kids and people who are learning english. It's not supposed to have the same information as wikipedia. (also, I believe it's pretty undeveloped compared to regular wikipedia, although I'm not too familiar with it, so you'd have to ask AE)
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TC wrote:That's a nice idea in theory but it has like... 2 sentences for things that should garner multiple paragraphs to only scratch the surface. :noway:
Haha, yes. It's a small and undeveloped Wikipedia. But growing very fast.
Clodius Albinus wrote: They don't even try to explain the Higg's Boson.
Higgs boson is a stub, and therefore short.
King Butter Turtle wrote: That's kind of the whole idea. It's not for people like you, it's for little kids and people who are learning english. It's not supposed to have the same information as wikipedia.
No, it should have the same information, just easier to read and understand.
King Butter Turtle wrote:(also, I believe it's pretty undeveloped compared to regular wikipedia, although I'm not too familiar with it, so you'd have to ask AE)
Yes, I know more about Simple English Wikipedia than about anyone else, and I once was the most active user there, and wrote the best article there, Charles Spurgeon (it's a very excellent article).
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Angel wrote: If you go back one page, you'll see what Selah suggested.
Basically, you go to wikipedia, hit the search arrow (without putting anything in), then go to the search on left of the page it brings you to, click on the 'Random Article'. Challenge: From that article you have only six clicks to try and get to an article about Hitler.

I got there in ten clicks. Starting from an article about British Columbia Highway 99A.
Edit: Eight clicks from an article on Poe, Indiana.
It took me 4 clicks. xD The random page was some lady named Eva Condon. :p
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Post by Danielle Abigail Maxwell »

I like wiki, but man, the info they give... it's either useful, or USELESS. Because it is written and could have been written by ANYONE, most of it could be lies.. time 10. I konw a few places where I know there are lies that someone has written.. because of my research on a few things from other sites.

I use it a lot, but I'm thinking of never using it again.. it's just not truthful. And most teachers now are saying you can't use Wikipedia anyway... at least, in college, and my school is itching toward that idea.. I'd have mixed feelings if that passed. But, well, for the better, I'm going to guess.
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I still like Wikipedia. :noway: Easiest place to look when I randomly need to explain to Kimberly about the digestive system or show her a picture of an aardvark. Because the girl wants to know everything and my brain doesn't store nearly as much as those Wikipedia servers.
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Dr. Watson wrote:I was just informed by my professor that I can't use Wikipedia as a reference for my senior project. :(
You poor deprived soul. :(
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JesusIsAlive wrote:
Angel wrote: If you go back one page, you'll see what Selah suggested.
Basically, you go to wikipedia, hit the search arrow (without putting anything in), then go to the search on left of the page it brings you to, click on the 'Random Article'. Challenge: From that article you have only six clicks to try and get to an article about Hitler.

I got there in ten clicks. Starting from an article about British Columbia Highway 99A.
Edit: Eight clicks from an article on Poe, Indiana.
It took me 4 clicks. xD The random page was some lady named Eva Condon. :p
I got there in 3 clicks! \:D/

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King Butter Turtle wrote:
TC wrote:That's a nice idea in theory but it has like... 2 sentences for things that should garner multiple paragraphs to only scratch the surface. :noway:
That's kind of the whole idea. It's not for people like you, it's for little kids and people who are learning english. It's not supposed to have the same information as wikipedia. (also, I believe it's pretty undeveloped compared to regular wikipedia, although I'm not too familiar with it, so you'd have to ask AE)
It's not a bad idea in theory, but what I saw in just looking at a few articles... misprints, grammar errors, and in the case of a video game... the picture on the side wasn't even OF THE GAME THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT. ;)

If we are trying to help young people and new English users, shouldn't we be teaching them with proper English? :noway:
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TC wrote: It's not a bad idea in theory, but what I saw in just looking at a few articles... misprints, grammar errors, and in the case of a video game... the picture on the side wasn't even OF THE GAME THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT. ;)

If we are trying to help young people and new English users, shouldn't we be teaching them with proper English? :noway:
Haha, wow. Like I said, it's less developed than the English Wikipedia. Go through these articles, that's kinda the better part of the Wikipedia. Could you tell me what page the video game picture was, I'd like to fix it.
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