The Hobbit: That Christopher Tolkien Did Not Like
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Even though it will stink, I will still pay money to see Orlando Bloom's face on the big screen.
*insert provocative quote here*
Pretty much this.Termite wrote:Even if it does stink, I will still pay money to hear Benedict Cumberbatch speak.
not to mention a few other awesome actors in the movie
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and to see the commercials that precede it; that's always fun
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So I just purchased and watched the extended edition, and may I just say....
Dwarves + Rivendell =![Hilarious :hilarious:](./images/smilies/lolg.gif)
Dwarves + Rivendell =
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But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
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Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
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Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
I found out that I’m going to get to see this at a private showing!
One of my cousins gets to hold an invite-only show as a reward for a fundraiser the theater did a while ago and she picked this movie.
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One of my cousins gets to hold an invite-only show as a reward for a fundraiser the theater did a while ago and she picked this movie.
Do you get to see it before the premiere date?! ![Dancing \:D/](./images/smilies/eusa_dance.gif)
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But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever
![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
I don’t. That would be the only thing that would make it cooler.
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Still, a private showing is really exciting ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
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*insert provocative quote here*
So I went to the premiere, and I'm still digesting what I just witnessed. O.O Since it's now 4am, I'm just going to give a minimalist review, but I intend to go in-depth at some point.
Let me preface everything by saying that, if you cannot suspend all your previous notions of The Hobbit, don't even bother paying money to see it, because you will be disappointed.
The good points: the sensation of Mirkwood, the spiders, Thranduil, Legolas, Smaug, Bilbo.
The bad points: Tauriel and an unfortunate storyline.
She is tolerable up until one scene which is simply unforgivable, I'm sorry to say. (This scene is the climax of a storyline that demonstrated a shocking lack of judgement by Peter Jackson.)
Let me preface everything by saying that, if you cannot suspend all your previous notions of The Hobbit, don't even bother paying money to see it, because you will be disappointed.
The good points: the sensation of Mirkwood, the spiders, Thranduil, Legolas, Smaug, Bilbo.
The bad points: Tauriel and an unfortunate storyline.
She is tolerable up until one scene which is simply unforgivable, I'm sorry to say. (This scene is the climax of a storyline that demonstrated a shocking lack of judgement by Peter Jackson.)
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But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever
![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
Watched the first movie for the third time to prepare for part two. I wanted to see the extended edition this time, but haven’t been able to acquire it yet, so it was just the theater version. It will suffice though.
Only a few thoughts worth noting, since I’ve already posted about the movie twice.
I’ve pretty much accepted the Azog addition, so I wasn’t bothered by it this time through, but I did have a new feeling about it. Instead of being upset, I was confused. I used to be so ‘Come on, why did they do that?’ that I didn’t actually think ‘Really, why did they do that?’ And this doesn’t just go for this movie, it’s for any book adaptation that decides to change or add something so extremely not in the original material that it fundamentally changes the entire story. Why? This is not the Hobbit anymore. This is not anything anymore. Why would you go through the trouble of making a movie based on a book when it’s not going to actually be based on the book? I don’t get it at all.
And I’ll mention this once more, then suffice it to say that the sentiment goes without saying in any future thoughts on the movie because it’s not going to change. I cannot believe the pinecone fires were all just plain orange. Every time I watch that scene it upsets and saddens me more. I need to look up the explanation for why they did that so I can at least get a reason, and it better be a good one.
I also have to mention that for being so ridiculously long, the movie never felt like it was dragging. Not even once. The whole thing was engaging, and the pace and flow was great. Even the third time through, knowing everything that was going to happen, it did not feel at all like it was as long as it was. Which is amazing.
Only a few thoughts worth noting, since I’ve already posted about the movie twice.
I’ve pretty much accepted the Azog addition, so I wasn’t bothered by it this time through, but I did have a new feeling about it. Instead of being upset, I was confused. I used to be so ‘Come on, why did they do that?’ that I didn’t actually think ‘Really, why did they do that?’ And this doesn’t just go for this movie, it’s for any book adaptation that decides to change or add something so extremely not in the original material that it fundamentally changes the entire story. Why? This is not the Hobbit anymore. This is not anything anymore. Why would you go through the trouble of making a movie based on a book when it’s not going to actually be based on the book? I don’t get it at all.
And I’ll mention this once more, then suffice it to say that the sentiment goes without saying in any future thoughts on the movie because it’s not going to change. I cannot believe the pinecone fires were all just plain orange. Every time I watch that scene it upsets and saddens me more. I need to look up the explanation for why they did that so I can at least get a reason, and it better be a good one.
I also have to mention that for being so ridiculously long, the movie never felt like it was dragging. Not even once. The whole thing was engaging, and the pace and flow was great. Even the third time through, knowing everything that was going to happen, it did not feel at all like it was as long as it was. Which is amazing.
Well, since it's still fresh and I have nothing to do, I figure I might as well share my extended thoughts. ![Dancing \:D/](./images/smilies/eusa_dance.gif)
Before I retreat to spoiler tags, let me echo what bookworm just said. These films are no longer The Hobbit, and I have acclimated myself to that fact. Peter Jackson has gone far beyond the whimsical children's book and turned this into an epic, very altered adaptation. The Desolation of Smaug is not for book purists.
Anyway, on to the main stuff. I'm going to put all my specific thoughts under spoiler tags so as not to ruin anything for anybody, because there were some wonderful moments in this film.
Overall, I loved it. It was a wild ride from start to finish, but it all worked out and drew me right in (except for that one scene of course lol). I will no doubt rave and rant more later, but for now I'm done.
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Before I retreat to spoiler tags, let me echo what bookworm just said. These films are no longer The Hobbit, and I have acclimated myself to that fact. Peter Jackson has gone far beyond the whimsical children's book and turned this into an epic, very altered adaptation. The Desolation of Smaug is not for book purists.
Anyway, on to the main stuff. I'm going to put all my specific thoughts under spoiler tags so as not to ruin anything for anybody, because there were some wonderful moments in this film.
But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever
![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
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I watched An Unexpected Journey a week ago tonight, and absolutely loved it. I've been saying quoted from the movie throughout the week. Two of my friends just surprised me about an hour ago and told me they're taking me to see it tonight.
"Some folks say, 'Well, America's gone too far,' and I say, 'Lazarus was dead, but that wasn't too much for Jesus.'"
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Well, I went to see the movie last night.
I'm going to post my long and cynical rant as soon as I can, but first, I need some time to emotionally recover.
The Desolation of Smaug? Ehh. It's the Desolation of J.R.R. Tolkien's beautiful writing. Yes, I'm going to be the cynical one just like I was last year. And you'll all probably disagree with me. Because I did not like this movie.
I'm going to post my long and cynical rant as soon as I can, but first, I need some time to emotionally recover.
The Desolation of Smaug? Ehh. It's the Desolation of J.R.R. Tolkien's beautiful writing. Yes, I'm going to be the cynical one just like I was last year. And you'll all probably disagree with me. Because I did not like this movie.
*insert provocative quote here*
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I know we're all going to say (and I even told one of my friends) that approximately 2% of that movie was based on the book, but I agree with the rest of you that, as its own entity, the movie is high quality and spectacular. I was so amazed by Smaug I was jittery afterwards.
And Aeva,
And Aeva,
"Some folks say, 'Well, America's gone too far,' and I say, 'Lazarus was dead, but that wasn't too much for Jesus.'"
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Ohh yeah, I forgot about that. I was quite frustrated with that bit too because that kind of stuff absolutely does not belong in Middle Earth.The Old Judge wrote:And Aeva,
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But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever
![Heart <3](./images/smilies/heart.jpeg)
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
Just got back from seeing it with my parents. I might post a longer review later, but here are a few thoughts:
the battle scenes were all way too long. I know that some of them (the spider scene) is in the book, but honestly they all felt dragged out. I didn't mind the change in the barrel escape scene, but the orcs distracted me from the brilliance that could've been. I suppose the Orcs did distract the Elves from stopping the Dwarves, but still.
I loved seeing Bilbo finally climb up and reach the sunlight. That was a welcome moment of relief.
I liked seeing Beorn, and the ponies. It was good to see the Necromancer, and hear his voice (also voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch)
speaking of Benedict, I agree with Aeva. Perfect dragon, excellent voice and motion capture, Benedict. you are awesome.
Of course, the whole end sequence in the mountain, with the Dwarves trying to defeat Smaug was rather drawn out. I appreciate that Thorin is starting to lust after the gold and the Arkanstone, but at least he didn't go to extreme measures. His taunting of Smaug was great, however.
I liked the conversation between Killi and Tauriel; I thought it was sweet. And I even liked their little romance;
Overall, I liked it (except for ridiculously drawn out battle sequences). ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oh, and I loved the end credits song. I already own it on my Ipod, along with a cover of it by Peter Hollens.
the battle scenes were all way too long. I know that some of them (the spider scene) is in the book, but honestly they all felt dragged out. I didn't mind the change in the barrel escape scene, but the orcs distracted me from the brilliance that could've been. I suppose the Orcs did distract the Elves from stopping the Dwarves, but still.
I loved seeing Bilbo finally climb up and reach the sunlight. That was a welcome moment of relief.
I liked seeing Beorn, and the ponies. It was good to see the Necromancer, and hear his voice (also voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch)
speaking of Benedict, I agree with Aeva. Perfect dragon, excellent voice and motion capture, Benedict. you are awesome.
Of course, the whole end sequence in the mountain, with the Dwarves trying to defeat Smaug was rather drawn out. I appreciate that Thorin is starting to lust after the gold and the Arkanstone, but at least he didn't go to extreme measures. His taunting of Smaug was great, however.
I liked the conversation between Killi and Tauriel; I thought it was sweet. And I even liked their little romance;
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oh, and I loved the end credits song. I already own it on my Ipod, along with a cover of it by Peter Hollens.
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you're probably right.Knight Fisher wrote:Shennifer wrote:Since not a single sequence followed the book I wouldn't put it past them. Though they probably wont.
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I really enjoyed the movie. A few years ago I read 2/3 of the book, so I don't really remember what happens in it. Cumberbatch's voice as the dragon was spectacular. Loved it.
The spider scene freaked me out, even though I don't mind spiders in real life.
The movie was wonderful.
The spider scene freaked me out, even though I don't mind spiders in real life.
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The movie was wonderful.
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2 Corinthians 12:10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
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