See http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/micha ... t-society/.
I wonder what Star Wars society would be, then?
Is Star trek society fascist?
Is Star trek society fascist?
Is Star Trek society fascist?
See http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/micha ... t-society/.
I wonder what Star Wars society would be, then?
See http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/micha ... t-society/.
I wonder what Star Wars society would be, then?
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That....may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.
And Worf was never too involved with getting a sense of humor. O_o His main conflict was with his sense of honor and his sense of duty.
And I'm not sure their "intrinsic cultural personalties" were ever unattractive. They were just different from the human norm. And it's species, not races. Gah. (Yeah, I know there's that one episode where they just declare out the blue that everyone descended from one individual, but I'm not a huge believer in it, especially since TNG contradicted itself on that fact a season later. Twice!) And Spock's conflict was so much more than trying to get a sense of humor. He was trying to rationalize his two halves, human and Vulcan. That involved learning about humor, but that was a minor point in his journey. Data tried to get emotions because everyone around (Klingon, Betazoid, and human) had emotions. And Data...wasn't an alien, so it doesn't even apply. Oy.
Also, there were plenty of awesome alien characters who never tried to become like humans: Kira Nerys, Odo (he was trying to be humanoid, yeah, but not human), Troi's mother, Worf (arguably, he grew up with human parents, but was firmly rooted in Klingon culture), Quark, Nog, the Daxes, and many many more. Data and Spock may have been more popular than most, yeah, but that was because they were engaging and fun (also, Spock was one of the first alien characters on television who wasn't hostile; Data represented new leaps in technology that humans could make). And not only that, but their characters had a huge focus on them. All four TNG movies are about Data, pretty much. Spock is always by Kirk's side on TOS.
And life extension technologies are not outlawed, what the heck? Some people choose not to accept that treatment, but many have...Dr. McCoy was 137 in TNG's first year! Picard was like, seventy in Star Trek: Nemesis. Life extension technology is very much present in the Star Trek universe, as is excellent health care. Which is half the reason why our favorite characters have lived so long.
Yeah. He does. It's one of the most tragic stories in the Star Trek canon. And he didn't want to do it. But he had to maintain the timeline...she always died, and she always had to die, sadly. But if it could've been different, it would've been. But, as Spock told Kirk so bluntly, "must die."
Really, you can?“Hard science fiction generally isn’t fascist, but one can make a
plausible case that Star Trek being fascist.
Uh. No. The United Federation of Planets, anyone? Cardassia would be an example of military dictatorship (yeah, Dukat was elected at first, but what happened afterwards devolved into one). Also, I think it was widely acknowledged that there was an Earth government (and the US still exists to some extent)...so yeah, still politics. Starfleet was the arm of the Federation, but it was rarely used (or supposed to be) for militaristic endeavors.A) They have no politics. It’s a military dictatorship.
This person has clearly not seen Deep Space Nine. It's true, the Federation doesn't seem to have a monetary system. That doesn't mean they don't allow it. And it would appear that they have some sort of credit system in place. Because Bashir and Dax and O'Brien and Sisko all spend money in different ways.B) They have no money. It’s a command economy.
Ah. No. All conflict is between different aliens. It's not racial, it's species-based. (The real world counterpart is supposed to be racially and culturally based, though. But that's if you look at the show as strictly an allegory.) Not only that, but Humans and Klingons are allies in the most recent timeline, and Romulans are just...yeah. They don't trust anybody, essentially, but I would say that they only have racial conflict with the Vulcans, because they're actually the same species (with some mutations). And even that isn't that pronounced.C) All conflict is racial. Humans v. Klingons v. Romulans etc.
That's because Roddenberry was a humanist. And because most science fiction revolves around humans because that's all we know right now.D) The races have intrinsic cultural personalities which make them less
attractive than the humans. Attractive members of alternate races try to
become more human: Spock and Worf trying to get a sense of humor. Data
trying to get emotions.
And Worf was never too involved with getting a sense of humor. O_o His main conflict was with his sense of honor and his sense of duty.
And I'm not sure their "intrinsic cultural personalties" were ever unattractive. They were just different from the human norm. And it's species, not races. Gah. (Yeah, I know there's that one episode where they just declare out the blue that everyone descended from one individual, but I'm not a huge believer in it, especially since TNG contradicted itself on that fact a season later. Twice!) And Spock's conflict was so much more than trying to get a sense of humor. He was trying to rationalize his two halves, human and Vulcan. That involved learning about humor, but that was a minor point in his journey. Data tried to get emotions because everyone around (Klingon, Betazoid, and human) had emotions. And Data...wasn't an alien, so it doesn't even apply. Oy.
Also, there were plenty of awesome alien characters who never tried to become like humans: Kira Nerys, Odo (he was trying to be humanoid, yeah, but not human), Troi's mother, Worf (arguably, he grew up with human parents, but was firmly rooted in Klingon culture), Quark, Nog, the Daxes, and many many more. Data and Spock may have been more popular than most, yeah, but that was because they were engaging and fun (also, Spock was one of the first alien characters on television who wasn't hostile; Data represented new leaps in technology that humans could make). And not only that, but their characters had a huge focus on them. All four TNG movies are about Data, pretty much. Spock is always by Kirk's side on TOS.
This...is a joke, right? Or an ironic statement on the fact that television very much has a problem when it comes to portraying a race other white half the time? Still, Star Trek didn't do a terrible job on this front: they had one of the first female African characters on TV who wasn't in some sort of domestic service; they had a whole series piloted by an African-American captain; Sulu, Harry Kim, and Hoshi Sato all had presences on their shows (albeit Kim's character kinda sucked, but that was because most of the characters were off most of the time); and as far as Latino Star Trek characters go...yeah, you may have a point there. There hasn't been a regular yet, but there have been many guest characters.E) Something terrible happened to Asians, Africans and Latins, because
90% of all humans are English-speaking whites.
Oh, for pete's sake...cognitive enhancement is outlawed because of KHAN. And for that matter, because of the genetically enhanced group that Bashir met. It was extremely dangerous, and Bashir and Khan were, for the most part, the successful exception.F) Cognitive enhancement and life extension technologies are outlawed,
or at least all R&D towards those goals have been stopped.
And life extension technologies are not outlawed, what the heck? Some people choose not to accept that treatment, but many have...Dr. McCoy was 137 in TNG's first year! Picard was like, seventy in Star Trek: Nemesis. Life extension technology is very much present in the Star Trek universe, as is excellent health care. Which is half the reason why our favorite characters have lived so long.
No...it couldn't. The transporter deletes the files immediately after a successful transport because there is no way the computer could store that much memory (patterns of living, breathing people take up a tremendous amount of space, see "Our Man Bashir"). I mean, unless someone tried to do that...and even then, I'm not sure that would work.G) Everyone apparently has some kind of mind-block against realizing
that the transporter beam could make copies of all the crew and keep
them young and immortal.
As much as I have problems with the Prime Directive, there were reasons for this rule: mainly, Roddenberry was basing his thinking on what happened in Vietnam, and similar things had happened in the Star Trek universe. (I believe Enterprise has some examples.) In fact, in other universes where that role hasn't been in place, conflict has ensued. And the Prime Directive rarely, rarely was followed to the letter.H) The Prime Directive maintains human (and allied) supremacy over the
hapless lesser peoples who are denied political and technological progress in order supposedly to respect their cultural “difference.”
However Kirk does go back to 1939 and stands aside to let his pacifist
girlfriend to get run down by a car instead of allowing her to convince
Roosevelt to stay out of WWII. So at least Star Trek wasn’t Nazi.”
Yeah. He does. It's one of the most tragic stories in the Star Trek canon. And he didn't want to do it. But he had to maintain the timeline...she always died, and she always had to die, sadly. But if it could've been different, it would've been. But, as Spock told Kirk so bluntly, "must die."
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Star Wars is Uninion.Moontide wrote:Is Star Trek society fascist?
See http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/micha ... t-society/.
I wonder what Star Wars society would be, then?
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