Questions for Trank!

WINDSHEAR · Post by **WINDSHEAR** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:52 pm

mr.whit wrote:when will you anser my question?

now that's a good question $\:D/$

Trent DeWhite · Post by **Trent DeWhite** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:43 pm

mr.whit wrote:when will you anser my question?

Now!

Currently, a subforum for faction ideas is not something we are currently planning to implement. As it is, we already have two sub-forums under City Hall. Creating an entire sub-forum would just add to the number of forums, and I don't think it's necessary at this point. In additon, we have not received enough interest to consider it an important (or even necessary) addition to the board. However, if enough people were interested, we'd run a poll to see what the majority think.

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:01 pm

I'm interested!

And Trank, how come NONE of the moderators you chose were fellow candidates in the election? I could be mistaken, but I thought making at least one candidate from at least one of the teams was a common courtesy for the admins...

Trent DeWhite · Post by **Trent DeWhite** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:16 pm

Rachael wrote:And Trank, how come NONE of the moderators you chose were fellow candidates in the election? I could be mistaken, but I thought making at least one candidate from at least one of the teams was a common courtesy for the admins...

I think I could go on and on about the moderator-selecting process until I was blue in the face... and you guys would still have questions.

Like I've stated many times before, we had a particularly tough time deliberating over the moderators. When you actually sit down and consider the number of people who would do a good job moderating, you'll easily come up with 25+ individuals. We had to shrink that number down to fifteen. Although, in the past, admins had graciously given a position to at least one other candidate, it was never a "rule" or expectation of the admins. Frank and I wanted to go with members with whom we were familiar and comfortable, so we opted to go with various individuals over the candidates.

WINDSHEAR · Post by **WINDSHEAR** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:41 pm

*watches Trent turn blue in the face* $\:D/$

Mr.Whit · Post by **Mr.Whit** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:21 am

the faction thread is to cluttered

darcie · Post by **darcie** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:05 am

Yeah but mr. whit, it hasn't been posted on in over 2 days... People don't think of new faction ideas that quickly. I agree with Trent that it is unnecessary. (my 2¢)
darcy

Mr.Whit · Post by **Mr.Whit** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:38 am

but thats becasue its so cluttered

The Top Crusader · Post by **The Top Crusader** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:47 am

Trent DeWhite wrote:
Rachael wrote:And Trank, how come NONE of the moderators you chose were fellow candidates in the election? I could be mistaken, but I thought making at least one candidate from at least one of the teams was a common courtesy for the admins...
I think I could go on and on about the moderator-selecting process until I was blue in the face... and you guys would still have questions. Like I've stated many times before, we had a particularly tough time deliberating over the moderators. When you actually sit down and consider the number of people who would do a good job moderating, you'll easily come up with 25+ individuals. We had to shrink that number down to fifteen. Although, in the past, admins had graciously given a position to at least one other candidate, it was never a "rule" or expectation of the admins. Frank and I wanted to go with members with whom we were familiar and comfortable, so we opted to go with various individuals over the candidates.

Just as FDR broke Washington's precedent...

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:51 pm

I agree that it was your choice-- however, several of the members here were extremely disappointed by it, simply because of how it reflected on Trank's character.

Whether or not it was an accurate reflection is besides the point-- I think you surely could have spared ONE mod spot for an opponent. It's more or less the equivalent of rubbing your triumph over them in their face, and it really does appear to be a bit.... well... snooty.

I can name at least three candidates who would have made fine (if not outstanding) moderators, and none of them were chosen. And I assure you, I'm by no means the only one who feels this way.

However, what's done is done, and hopefully future administrative teams will take this as a learning opportunity and be more courteous to their opponents.

Oh, dear... you seem to have gotten Rachael started.

Everyone: Duck, cover, and scream!

Trent DeWhite · Post by **Trent DeWhite** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:48 pm

I'm sorry we didn't meet your expectations.

I'm sure future admins will be able to please everybody.

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:00 pm

No, they won't, but hopefully they won't have your attitude. The "I'm in charge, this is how we'll do things, and if you disagree-- TOO BAD!" really displays immaturity. Especially considering your position of 'power' is only temporary. Don't get too comfortable, Trent-- pride comes before the fall.

Post by **Catspaw** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:31 pm

Rachael wrote:No, they won't, but hopefully they won't have your attitude. The "I'm in charge, this is how we'll do things, and if you disagree-- TOO BAD!" really displays immaturity. Especially considering your position of 'power' is only temporary. Don't get too comfortable, Trent-- pride comes before the fall.

I think that Trent knows better than most just how hard it can be to earn (yes, earn) the position of responsibility that he currently holds. He has been diligent in all positions of responsibility that he has been given on the ToO, even if it was (at least once or twice) not the position that he had set out to attain. I haven't seen a display of arrogance. Amdins can choose mods. Last term not nearly all of the competitors received mod spots - this time, none did. As Trank has already stated, it can be hard to make mod decisions, and they had to narrow down a list. It's far too late to change that decision now...not that I'm saying that they should.

If somebody perceives Trank as being "arrogant," I would have to say that it is then their problem. Obviously the vast majority of ToOers supported Trank before the election, and a lot of people are glad that Trank has the position that they have. Being "courteous" to one's opponents is one thing - requiring that they be made mods is another. If Shadowpaw had thought that such an action would be best for the board, he could have made a rule of that nature. But he didn't. Can't this issue die, at least until the next election? Then it can be made a campaign issue, if enough people think that it's a concern.

Mr.Whit · Post by **Mr.Whit** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:17 am

Catspaw wrote:
Rachael wrote:No, they won't, but hopefully they won't have your attitude. The "I'm in charge, this is how we'll do things, and if you disagree-- TOO BAD!" really displays immaturity. Especially considering your position of 'power' is only temporary. Don't get too comfortable, Trent-- pride comes before the fall.
I think that Trent knows better than most just how hard it can be to earn (yes, earn) the position of responsibility that he currently holds. He has been diligent in all positions of responsibility that he has been given on the ToO, even if it was (at least once or twice) not the position that he had set out to attain. I haven't seen a display of arrogance. Amdins can choose mods. Last term not nearly all of the competitors received mod spots - this time, none did. As Trank has already stated, it can be hard to make mod decisions, and they had to narrow down a list. It's far too late to change that decision now...not that I'm saying that they should.

If somebody perceives Trank as being "arrogant," I would have to say that it is then their problem. Obviously the vast majority of ToOers supported Trank before the election, and a lot of people are glad that Trank has the position that they have. Being "courteous" to one's opponents is one thing - requiring that they be made mods is another. If Shadowpaw had thought that such an action would be best for the board, he could have made a rule of that nature. But he didn't. Can't this issue die, at least until the next election? Then it can be made a campaign issue, if enough people think that it's a concern.

If i was elected I would have made two of my oponents mods.

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:00 am

Catspaw wrote:
Rachael wrote:No, they won't, but hopefully they won't have your attitude. The "I'm in charge, this is how we'll do things, and if you disagree-- TOO BAD!" really displays immaturity. Especially considering your position of 'power' is only temporary. Don't get too comfortable, Trent-- pride comes before the fall.
I think that Trent knows better than most just how hard it can be to earn (yes, earn) the position of responsibility that he currently holds. He has been diligent in all positions of responsibility that he has been given on the ToO, even if it was (at least once or twice) not the position that he had set out to attain. I haven't seen a display of arrogance. Amdins can choose mods. Last term not nearly all of the competitors received mod spots - this time, none did. As Trank has already stated, it can be hard to make mod decisions, and they had to narrow down a list. It's far too late to change that decision now...not that I'm saying that they should.

If somebody perceives Trank as being "arrogant," I would have to say that it is then their problem. Obviously the vast majority of ToOers supported Trank before the election, and a lot of people are glad that Trank has the position that they have. Being "courteous" to one's opponents is one thing - requiring that they be made mods is another. If Shadowpaw had thought that such an action would be best for the board, he could have made a rule of that nature. But he didn't. Can't this issue die, at least until the next election? Then it can be made a campaign issue, if enough people think that it's a concern.

No offense, but I notice that you're one of the global mods who wasn't one of Trank's opponents... I'm not sure yours would be the most unbiased opinion.

Mr.Whit · Post by **Mr.Whit** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:56 am

Rachael wrote:
Catspaw wrote:
Rachael wrote:No, they won't, but hopefully they won't have your attitude. The "I'm in charge, this is how we'll do things, and if you disagree-- TOO BAD!" really displays immaturity. Especially considering your position of 'power' is only temporary. Don't get too comfortable, Trent-- pride comes before the fall.
I think that Trent knows better than most just how hard it can be to earn (yes, earn) the position of responsibility that he currently holds. He has been diligent in all positions of responsibility that he has been given on the ToO, even if it was (at least once or twice) not the position that he had set out to attain. I haven't seen a display of arrogance. Amdins can choose mods. Last term not nearly all of the competitors received mod spots - this time, none did. As Trank has already stated, it can be hard to make mod decisions, and they had to narrow down a list. It's far too late to change that decision now...not that I'm saying that they should.

If somebody perceives Trank as being "arrogant," I would have to say that it is then their problem. Obviously the vast majority of ToOers supported Trank before the election, and a lot of people are glad that Trank has the position that they have. Being "courteous" to one's opponents is one thing - requiring that they be made mods is another. If Shadowpaw had thought that such an action would be best for the board, he could have made a rule of that nature. But he didn't. Can't this issue die, at least until the next election? Then it can be made a campaign issue, if enough people think that it's a concern.
No offense, but I notice that you're one of the global mods who wasn't one of Trank's opponents... I'm not sure yours would be the most unbiased opinion.

I agree.
Who voted them into office anywAy?

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:57 am

The members of the board. Or at least, SOME of them....

The Top Crusader · Post by **The Top Crusader** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:02 am

Most of them.

And I'll state that, yes, the mod issue really and truly does disappoint me--Red Scorpion rantings aside. However I trust Trent to do a good job in other avenues of admindom. I've more concern for the direction of the board in general than can really be put on the shoulders' of Trank...

Trent DeWhite · Post by **Trent DeWhite** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:31 am

Rachael wrote:No offense, but I notice that you're one of the global mods who wasn't one of Trank's opponents... I'm not sure yours would be the most unbiased opinion.

And yours isn't biased?

Rachael Blackgaard · Post by **Rachael Blackgaard** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:54 am

nope. Why would it be? I was neither an opponent nor an admin chosen nor a mod chosen nor a mod un-chosen... or something like that.