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581: "A Christmas Conundrum"

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:11 pm
by Catspaw
I haven't heard the ep yet myself, but I needed a topic to sticky, so here it is! \:D/ Have fun!

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:18 pm
by Chandler
\:D/ Great show! I enjoyed it! :D



Where's Katrina? Did Eugene lock her in the fridge by accident? :anxious: I can hear that farewell already.
"Bye Katrina, I'm heading to Whit's End for the gift exchange that we've so cleverly managed to forget to include you in while we act like the old days where Tom calls me 'YOU-jean' and just doesn't understand 'that boy'."
(I didn't miss Katrina at all, it just seems odd that Eugene's married and she's not around... but at least he mentioned her! :anxious:)


Notice ever since "Here Today, Gone Tomorrow?" and "No Way In/Out" that so many of the shows contain a reference to Wankel's Automotive and Honest Erwin's? :lol: You'd almost think that all other businesses had left Odyssey with the frequency we here those two mentioned. Or maybe this is "National Car Awareness Year." :-k


I LOVED the way Bart was selling things over the suggested retail and the way he used that same "picky, picky" line that he used in "Live at the 25." :D
I also liked the Bart and Tom conversation. ;) It seems like we hear Bart and Tom on the same shows more frequently because they're voiced by the same person. But maybe I'm just imagining things. :-k

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:05 am
by J-man
Well, I enjoyed this episode, although I missed Katrina as well. I thought it was rather funny how everyone kept getting mixed up, it reminded me of some of the old shows. I'm not really sure what else to say, besides the fact that I rate it four stars.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:16 am
by Aslan
i like it because it feels like your listening to a old episode.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:27 am
by Sonuna
I thoroughly enjoyed this. As with many of the new episodes, it seems more "classic" than most of the recent years. It's probably just Eugene's Super Classicness Power... or something...

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:15 pm
by Evil Chick
Although the plot was rather predictable, I really enjoyed this episode! As others have already mentioned, it seemed like one of the good old classic AIO eps. It was funny, and taught a good lesson.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:39 pm
by Jimmy Barclay Fan
It was real good. I enjoyed all the misunderstandings. I gave it 4 stars.

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:46 pm
by Linne
For me, this was an okay episode at least, and I would probably like listening to it again, except I kept finding little things to be nit-picky about. Like, the fact that Katrina was just missing. That was just odd. And then Whit's conversation with Tom. It wasn't even a tactful exit. (Altogether, I was just plain disappointed in Whit until the end.) And Connie's "I'm so excited to open presents!" line bugged me.

But the ending made it alright, I loved Grady's story about his mother's gift to him. And Bart! Suggested retail price! Yes! \:D/

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:53 pm
by Broadcast
Episode Review: Episode 581: A Christmas Conundrum
Writer: Kathy Buchanan(#35)
Sound Designer: Nathan Jones
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Title: A Christmas Buchanan

Characters:
Major: (greater than 30 eps)
Whit(#385)
Connie (#273)
Eugene(#173)
Tom (#122)
Bart Rathbone (#63)

Minor: (less than 30 eps)
Grady (#4)

In the spirit of Christmas, I’ll be giving Kathy Wierenga a break from criticism.

Aaw, Christmas. Looking back at all the Odyssey Christmas Shows, I almost feel inspired to rate them according to my preference. (I’ve left out two episodes, mind you)

14. Gifts For Madge and Guy
13. The Day After Christmas
12. The Popsicle Kid
11. Monty's Christmas
10. Back to Bethlehem, Parts 1, 2 & 3
9. A Christmas Conundrum
8 The Star, Parts 1 & 2
7. The Living Nativity
6. A Time for Christmas
5. The Visitors
4. It's a Pokenberry Christmas, Parts 1 & 2
3. A Lamb’s Tale
2. Unto Us a Child Is Born
1. Peace on Earth


Considering the number of not-so-satisfying/popular Christmas shows in the series, this episode actually did quite good. As you see, I’ve placed it #9. The thing is; I look at all Christmas episodes as one whole. Every episode brings a certain dimension to the Odyssey Christmas. I suppose your preference mainly depends on what part of the Odyssey Christmas adventures tingles your socks the most. Is it the story of the birth of Jesus? Is it Whit’s Famous Eggnog? Is it an Imagination Station adventure? Is it hearing craziness throughout a time meant for peace? By itself this episode would be nothing if it didn’t also mean adding to the other great Christmassy shows.

I tell ya’, it sure doesn’t seem like Christmas until I listen to a good old holiday episode.

I remember last year when I read Shadowpaw’s review for “A Lamb’s Tale”;
Shadowpaw wrote: Next year I'm demanding that the characters drink hot chocolate, sing Christmas carols, decorate a Christmas tree, and give gifts to one another!
Well, one out of four isn’t bad—and Whit’s famous eggnog was mentioned! And while, I was half waiting for that too, it was a nice holdover until that time truly comes.

Overall, I enjoyed the cast in today’s episode. Having Whit, Tom, Eugene and Connie open gifts before Christmas at Whit’s House was so classic that I wonder why it hasn’t happened sooner. I was extremely pleased with the whole mood and atmosphere of the episode. Though, anyone else expected a roaring fire in the background while they were opening gifts? Hmm. Something was missing throughout that scene…

Obviously hot chocolate, Christmas Carols, Christmas tree decorations…;)

Though, maybe if they hadn’t rushed to opening presents after Connie arrived, they would’ve had time to do that.

The fact that Katrina was missing makes more sense then what people think. This episode takes place much earlier then Christmas day, since everyone mentioned they were gone the following day and since “Silent Night” takes place on Christmas Eve. Though it doesn’t excuse the fact that Katrina would be spending Christmas with the rest of the gang, I assume that Eugene and Katrina will be spending Christmas with each other. However, maybe she thought that the gift-giving ceremony was a tradition between the four of them and she wanted to respect that. Okay. The reason that I’m defending her is the fact that her presence in this episode would not have worked. Confusing 4 presents among four people is hard enough than having 5 people! And I realize that it’s hard for Eugene to play parts if his wife is constantly around him—like a wife should be doing—but…then she’d just get annoying and most probably convince younger listeners never to get married. But, wait a minute; so many characters were missing from this episode that I don’t even understand why she’s the big deal. I had wondered when I read the description for this episode which characters would be making up the list of characters. Luckily, it was many of the old/original characters. But, then I thought of so many other characters that I wish could’ve just piled into Whit’s House. As Whit greeted Connie merrily as she entered the door, I was almost thinking to myself; ”alright, and now, please open the door for Jack, Jason, Bernard, Harlow, Nick, the Washington’s, and heck, even the Barclays too.” After all, what’s a Christmas show without the Barclays?

I can’t go without mentioning the great dialogue Kathy Buchanan managed to write between these characters. One of these scenes was the highlight of the episode. I especially enjoyed the conversation Eugene and Grady had at the end of the episode. It continues their friendship made in “Back to Abnormal” and shows a particularly rare compassionate side to Eugene. His explanation to why he didn’t need to repay for the present really drove in what Whit talked about moments earlier (when we so rudely interrupted by Tom’s vacuum). Other instances included the quibble between Connie and Eugene, Whit and Eugene’s conversation at the beginning, and Tom’s “twang”…

I very much enjoyed the moral of the show. I had truly never thought of the story of the Wiseman in that sense, and it’ll most assuredly have me looking at it in a different way. Jesus gave them the greatest gift at all that their gifts must’ve been nothing in comparison—however, they gave them anyway.

And what’s a Kathy Wierenga episode without complaints? I knew the usual stupidity and silliness would slip in at spots, which, truly, was the only real drawback to the episode. Or else it would’ve been worthy of a higher rating. Not including the donut joke, the toast joke, the hubcaps, the powerful vacuum (which is a recurring joke not getting any funnier…), and, most of all, the mustache trimmer, the episode was fairly light on the usual Kathy humor. I still think she’s an impressive and talented writer…but she has a thing for these types of jokes.

Too bad I don’t have a thing for them...

And, of course, I was a bit puzzled with Whit’s…stupidity. I’m not sure about the older episodes, but I wonder if Whit was always not very subtle. I remember back in “Room Enough for Two”, how he was extremely obvious in his attempts to make Liz and Natalie friends. Oh well, at least it’s official.

Aside from a few minor complaints like that, the overall episode did fairly well. Like many others, I have a big heart for last year’s Christmas Adventure. But, of course, this one was better than nothing. Luckily, and though we shouldn’t expect the AIO Christmas of our dreams, we are dished with yet another holiday show next week.

Broadcast wishes you all a Merry Christmas! Until the season finale…!

Acting/dialogue: 5/5
Story/Originality: 4.2/5
Use of Characters/Consistency: 2.6/5
Personal enjoyment/Entertainment Value: 4/5

Total: 15.8 /20= 79%= SCORE:GOOD+

*Note: Due to the realization of the uselessness of one category, I decided to delete it and partially combine it with one other so that it makes more sense. As it was, it was automatically taking down points of a show if the shows wasn't important to the series. Slice of Life shows were automatically penalized.

(Rating Grid:
0%=Poison
0-20%=Complete Failure
20-40%=Very Poor
40-60%=Poor
60-70%=Average
70-80%=Good
80-90%=Very Good
90-100%=Terrific
100%=Perfect
)

For additional Reviews agreed by the author, please refer to: CATSPAW

Memorable Quotes:

Connie: What a mess! You’re never gonna guess what happened to me this morning.

Eugene: You confused your hairspray with your Antiperspirant Spray.

Connie: Like I would make that mistake twice

Eugene: Hmm…

***

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:06 pm
by DanP740
Whit was getting Connie a car, Connie thought Eugene was getting her the car so she bought him the stereo, but Eugene saw Tom getting the stereo and thought that Tom was getting it for him, so Eugene gave Tom the vaccuum, but Tom thought that Whit was getting him the vaccuum so Tom got Whit the watch with the altimeter. *pant* *pant* Maybe I'll draw a diagram. *pant*

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:10 pm
by Jimmy Barclay Fan
Hey Broadcast what about Grady ?
Characters:
Major: (greater than 30 eps)
Whit(#385)
Connie (#273)
Eugene(#173)
Tom (#122)
Bart Rathbone (#63)
Minor: (less than 30 eps)
None

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:25 pm
by Catspaw
I also noticed that Grady was left off of Broadcast's "Minor Characters" list. :anxious:

I listened today, and I enjoyed the fun-ness of the ep! It kind of felt like Christmas, but the Christmas spirit was somewhat diminished by the small number of characters. In a way it was nice, since, except for Grady, they were all classic characters. However, there were so many other characters that it would have been nice to touch base with! However, I don't want to criticize that very much yet, since some of that could happen next week in "Silent Night."

Gift-giving was played up a bit much perhaps, but the focus on the wise men and how we can never give enough to compensate for the gift that we have been given was a great point to ponder, and I appreciated the new angle - it wasn't just a typical, cliched Christmas moral.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode, with the right touch of Bart-style humour and some nice, classic AIO conversations! :D

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:33 pm
by Broadcast
Jimmy Barclay wrote:Hey Broadcast what about Grady ?
Catspaw wrote:I also noticed that Grady was left off of Broadcast's "Minor Characters" list. :anxious:
Thank-you,

My Apologies. For some reason, my mind had left him out. That inacuracy has been fixed, as well as one other: I remarked I had also written "Between the Two of Us", when I meant to spell the correct episode title; "Room Enough for Two".

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:01 pm
by Nathan Hoobler
Broadcast wrote:
Shadowpaw wrote: Next year I'm demanding that the characters drink hot chocolate, sing Christmas carols, decorate a Christmas tree, and give gifts to one another!
Well, one out of four isn’t bad—and Whit’s famous eggnog was mentioned! And while, I was half waiting for that too, it was a nice holdover until that time truly comes.
You'll be happy to know that they do ALL FOUR in next week's episode.

Nathan

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:09 pm
by Catspaw
Nathan Hoobler wrote:
Broadcast wrote:
Shadowpaw wrote: Next year I'm demanding that the characters drink hot chocolate, sing Christmas carols, decorate a Christmas tree, and give gifts to one another!
Well, one out of four isn’t bad—and Whit’s famous eggnog was mentioned! And while, I was half waiting for that too, it was a nice holdover until that time truly comes.
You'll be happy to know that they do ALL FOUR in next week's episode.

Nathan
Yay! \:D/ I'm so happy to hear that! Apparently Shadowpaw has power beyond what we thought! ;)

*taps foot anxiously, waiting for next week*

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:53 pm
by Evil Chick
Nathan Hoobler wrote:
Broadcast wrote:
Shadowpaw wrote: Next year I'm demanding that the characters drink hot chocolate, sing Christmas carols, decorate a Christmas tree, and give gifts to one another!
Well, one out of four isn’t bad—and Whit’s famous eggnog was mentioned! And while, I was half waiting for that too, it was a nice holdover until that time truly comes.
You'll be happy to know that they do ALL FOUR in next week's episode.

Nathan
Awesomeness! :cheerleader: *is looking forward to next week's show*

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:21 am
by COWBOY OF TEXAS
I liked this one. (But then again I like most every.)



-Cowboy

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:58 am
by Laura Ingalls
I really liked it! \:D/ I hadn't thought about Katrina not being there - I guess I'm still not adjusted to the idea of Eugene being married. :anxious:

I give it 4 Christmas tree ornaments! \:D/

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:00 am
by AIOfan11
Evil Chick wrote:
Nathan Hoobler wrote:
Broadcast wrote:
Shadowpaw wrote: Next year I'm demanding that the characters drink hot chocolate, sing Christmas carols, decorate a Christmas tree, and give gifts to one another!
Well, one out of four isn’t bad—and Whit’s famous eggnog was mentioned! And while, I was half waiting for that too, it was a nice holdover until that time truly comes.
You'll be happy to know that they do ALL FOUR in next week's episode.

Nathan
Awesomeness! :cheerleader: *is looking forward to next week's show*
Yay! This is going to be a good show...I hope. :D How many gifts do they exchange?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:11 pm
by AioMan
4 stars.