Bernard...

Conniepaw · Post by **Conniepaw** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:24 am

do you guys notice a character change in bernard? i was listening to the first episode he appears in and his personality is so different than now. eugene's personality also changed too..did you notice that?

Agent3xq · Post by **Agent3xq** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:09 am

I think that's a valid point, Bernard's first episode I believe was By Any Other Name and he seemed a bit negative and grumpy, but it seems he has shown some change, but I think his change has been for the better. I think they made Eugene change after becoming a Christian and it seems like he's changed a bit since the novacom saga. He seems to be more Christ-like with his Hand Up.

STRYPER · Post by **STRYPER** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:04 am

Two factors going into Bernards character: his age, the writing.
One factor going into Eugene's character : the writing

Crazy 4 Pugs · Post by **Crazy 4 Pugs** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:13 pm

I don't like the new Eugene... he's a little too human, if you know what I mean!

Macnut · Post by **Macnut** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:01 pm

Bernard has changed somewhat but I don't really care one way or the other. I liked the old Bernard and the new Bernard. He's always been among my favorite characters.

Bernard rocks!

HarlowRoxMySox · Post by **HarlowRoxMySox** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:37 pm

I have noticed a tad change, but it's nothing overdramatic. He's still that ole Bernard we all know and love. And he always makes me laugh.

Jack Davis · Post by **Jack Davis** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:04 am

He has changed, and I like it, but I would prefer a grumpier Bernard.

Macnut · Post by **Macnut** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:08 am

I think he was kinda a mix of the old Bernard and the new Bernard in this week's episode. I liked it!

bluebonnet1 · Post by **bluebonnet1** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:10 pm

I agree that Eugene has changed...I think his marriage to Katrina (whose new voice I don't like) has helped make him more, shall we say, "normal".

H Tide · Post by **H Tide** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:29 pm

Well, Bernard wasn't that grumpy in "Suspicious Minds," which was an earlier episode with him. I actually noticed some similarities between "Suspicious Minds" and this week's episode regarding Bernard's role. He was the one listening to everyone's problems—and laughing at them. But yes, I agree that Bernard was a bit grumpier in earlier episodes, but not by much...he's still his same old sarcastic self.

Macnut · Post by **Macnut** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:33 pm

I was thinking the same thing. When Max started talking to him and then Trent talking to him I kept thinking, "This sounds just like Suspicious Minds"...

Taq · Post by **Taq** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:34 pm

Bernard sounded kinda "slow" to me in Mum's the Word.

STRYPER · Post by **STRYPER** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:45 pm

That's because he's old

Bennett · Post by **Bennett** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:41 pm

Yea, for Bernard its difinetely his age. Which is sad, because he has been on the show for long. And I hope that once his character goes away that they just let it be, and not try to replace him or anything. Honestly, it's time to stop replacing.

But Bernard has been one of the finest characters on the program. And wheither he's grumpy or not now, I'm glad that he's just there.

For Eugene, however, I believe it's both the writing AND the acting. Whereas Bernard got more serious, Eugene got a whole lost less serious. He's always "up in the air" these days, and it annoys me. Because though he had the occasional "Eugene acting crazy" back in the day, they were funny because they weren't "that often". Eugene certainly lost his role-model qualities. Barely an episode goes by today where he hasn't done something very rash and silly.

Sure he was silly when introduced, but if someone changes they should NEVER go back to the way they were. (or if they do, at least retain the qualities in personalities that they adapted over the years, and not ignore them completely).

BC

Zelda Jacobs · Post by **Zelda Jacobs** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:40 pm

macnut24 wrote:Bernard has changed somewhat but I don't really care one way or the other. I liked the old Bernard and the new Bernard. He's always been among my favorite characters.

Bernard rocks!

*high fives macnut24*

Bernard Rocks! $\:D/$ I have to say the samething macnut 24 said. Bernard is a good character good or old. And he is my favorite character on Odyssey.

STRYPER · Post by **STRYPER** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:59 pm

Bennett wrote:Yea, for Bernard its difinetely his age. Which is sad, because he has been on the show for long.

Dave Madden's first episode was AIO:32 Family Vaction in 1988.
Bernard's first appearence was AIO:106 By any other Name in 1990

He's been around a while

jollyholiday · Post by **jollyholiday** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:37 am

I love Bernard. He's one of my favorite characters.

I think it is important that the characters personalities change somewhat or even a lot over time in the show. People change over time.

Bernard has been on the show for 16 years.

I'm much different as a 37 year old than I was as a 21 year old...

-jolly

Macnut · Post by **Macnut** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:57 pm

jollyholiday wrote:I love Bernard. He's one of my favorite characters.

I think it is important that the characters personalities change somewhat or even a lot over time in the show. People change over time.

Bernard has been on the show for 16 years.

I'm much different as a 37 year old than I was as a 21 year old...

-jolly

That is a good point. I'm much different as a 17 year old than I was as a 1 year old.

Agent3xq · Post by **Agent3xq** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:58 pm

macnut24 wrote:
jollyholiday wrote:I love Bernard. He's one of my favorite characters.

I think it is important that the characters personalities change somewhat or even a lot over time in the show. People change over time.

Bernard has been on the show for 16 years.

I'm much different as a 37 year old than I was as a 21 year old...

-jolly
That is a good point. I'm much different as a 17 year old than I was as a 1 year old.

that could be debatable

J-man · Post by **J-man** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:01 pm

Oh that was awesome. $\:D/$