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Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:18 pm
by Bob
Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points (-1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 5 Points (+1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points

Ballot #2
Waylaid In The Windy City, Pts. 1-2 - 1 Points (-1)
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 10 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 23 Points (+1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points

"Waylaid in the Windy City", now facing elimination.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:20 pm
by shadowdog
Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 4 Points (-1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points (+1)

Ballot #2
Waylaid In The Windy City, Pts. 1-2 - 0 Points (-1)
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 10 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points (+1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points

"Waylaid in the Windy City", now gone.

Who's next???

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:22 pm
by Bob
I'm not sure the vote total counts your vote (the one you posted before I did mine) -- we probably need to go back and adjust to count both of them.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:24 pm
by shadowdog
Really??? I think they both add to 100. Double check.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:25 pm
by Bob
Well, the thing isn't whether it adds to 100; the thing is whether it accounts for both of the -1s and +1s that were made.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:30 pm
by shadowdog
I see where it went wrong....I think.

You added two to Connie and forgot to keep the point that I added to Life in the Third Person.

Go and check.


Am I right? This is confusing ;)

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:36 pm
by Bob
Well, I didn't forget it, so much as it didn't exist at the time I was posting it.

Lemme see.

Okay, I think here's what it looks like, all votes taken in consideration.

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 3 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 26 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 9 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:30 am
by shadowdog
YAY! We got it fixed! :D

;)

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points (-1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 27 Points (+1)

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 8 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points (+1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points


Last post of day :D

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:09 am
by American Eagle
I'm not giving up on Exit, guys. ;) Even if I stand alone.

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 12 Points (+1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 1 Points (-1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 27 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 7 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 26 Points (+1)

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:11 pm
by Bob
With Connie facing elimination:

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points (-1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points (+1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 27 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 25 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 6 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 26 Points (+1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 26 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:08 pm
by American Eagle
I simply do not understand.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:17 pm
by SoccerLOTR
Connie has so much meaning in it...

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points (+1)
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 26 Points (-1)

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 26 Points (+1)
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 6 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 26 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:23 pm
by American Eagle
Well, of course it does, but it's time to move on. Ballot #1 has seven episodes while #2 has only five. It's time for someone to get this game going...

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 12 Points (+1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 1 Points (-1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 26 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 26 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 5 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points (+1)

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:45 pm
by SoccerLOTR
So you're all for the action/adventure over Connie, but then you forsake all the action/adventure on the next ballot to vote for The Mortal Coil?

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 15 Points (+1)
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 12 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 1 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points (-1)

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points (+1)
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 5 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points (-1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:06 pm
by American Eagle
SoccerLOTR wrote:So you're all for the action/adventure over Connie, but then you forsake all the action/adventure on the next ballot to vote for The Mortal Coil?
Yes, and if people were voting down Clara, I would do my best to save it. I think Clara, Exit and The Mortal Coil are the best episodes in this game (along with Aloha, Oy! and Gone..., which aren't here). I don't think Connie is quite as good as those.

I'm fine with you guys trying to keep Connie just above 0... as long as you aren't just doing it for the lulz.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:30 am
by Bob
Vote #1, 7/21/2011.

Well, the way I see it, it's a generic (and in my mind overrated) action/adventure episode, that uses every cliche in the book (kidnapped damsel in distress, the villains attempting to taking over the world with mind control, the least likely guy having to bail everyone out, etc., etc., etc.) that has limited application to someone's life against the episode two-parter that brought the show's all-time #2 character to salvation, and shows the circumstances that helped it happen.

I would personally rank Malachi's Message, Clara, Connie, For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Life, TTHC, TPW, and The Mortal Coil all above "Exit" -- and I'd consider giving the older adventure episodes higher ratings too, just because their outcomes weren't so incredibly pre-determined.

In "The Nemesis", I was surprised when Tom's barn actually burned down, nearly killing him and his horses, and when Blackgaard got his license. In "The Battle", I was surprised when Lucy ran into the room and got fried by a power surge. In "A Name, Not a Number" I was surprised when Blackgaard turned out to be alive after all of the previous drama.

I was *not* surprised that Novacom failed to take over the world in "Exit". The only remotely surprising thing that happened was that they had to destroy the Imagination Station -- which is kind of a bummer, but not really since we all know Whit can just build a newer and better one. What kind of a loss is it when the only thing that goes wrong can be easily fixed?

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 15 Points
Clara - 14 Points
Exit - 11 Points (-1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points (+1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 4 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points (+1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points

Also: The numbers in Ballot #2 don't add up to 100. I suspect it's because of pre-"solution" "The Battle" votes, but I can't work out why right now... all I can say is that this is horribly frustrating and makes me wish we had an automated process to handle this.

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:56 am
by himi34
Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 14 Points (-1)
Clara - 15 Points (+1)
Exit - 11 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 15 Points 9(-1)
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points (+1)
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 4 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 27 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:20 pm
by American Eagle
Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 13 Points (-1)
Clara - 15 Points
Exit - 12 Points (+1)
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 15 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 3 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points (+1)

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:25 pm
by Bob
Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 13 Points
Clara - 15 Points
Exit - 12 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 3 Points (+1)
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 15 Points (-1)
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points (+1)
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points (-1)
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 25 Points
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points

Re: ~~ Odyssey Episode Competition: Season 3 Best-of-the-Best ~~

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:08 pm
by SoccerLOTR
Bob, thank you for the detailed explanation of why some of the episodes are better than others...

Ballot #1
Malachi's Message, Pts. 1-3 - 13 Points
Clara - 15 Points
Exit - 12 Points
Connie, Pts. 1-2 - 3 Points
The Nemesis, Pts. 1-2 - 16 Points (+1)
For Whom The Wedding Bell Tolls, Pts. 1-3 - 17 Points
Life In The Third Person, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points (-1)

Ballot #2
The Time Has Come - 16 Points
A Name, Not a Number, Pts. 1-2 - 29 Points (+1)
The Battle, Pts. 1-2 - 2 Points
The Perfect Witness, Pts. 1-3 - 24 Points (-1)
The Mortal Coil, Pts. 1-2 - 28 Points