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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:24 pm
by American Eagle
StrongNChrist wrote:didn't the character grow up, 'cause he was around when Jimmy was and Jimmy's an adult now.... :?
Apply that reasoning to Connie, also. \:D/

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:25 pm
by StrongNChrist
American Eagle wrote:
StrongNChrist wrote:didn't the character grow up, 'cause he was around when Jimmy was and Jimmy's an adult now.... :?
Apply that reasoning to Connie, also. \:D/
good point.........
and here's another thing. I did a little math. How old is Eugene? I thought he was in his early 20s or something but with a little math I figured he should be over 27.....

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:17 pm
by King Butter Turtle
Ya, there are many problems with time in Odyssey. My favorite explanation is Amethystic's time by christmases, but it still has it's problems. Rodney also hung out with Grady who's now 11.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 pm
by StrongNChrist
I forgot about that one.
what explanation was that?? (I didn't read the whole thread. to lazy :D )

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:17 am
by Jasper Dale
KristopherWindsor wrote:
Amethystic wrote:And KBT, I fail to see what is so hard about being an above target range fan.
To me, the story now seems less real, and some of the drama (IE Eugene's dad) seems a bit fake.
Also, comparing your problems to kid's problems make your life seem even harder. :P :)
i totally agree with the "fake" comment. something is wrong with how these stories are being told and my wife and i can't quite put our finger on it.

i don't know if the writers are not trying to repeat themselves by telling the stories differently, but if it wasn't broke, why try to fix it?

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:44 pm
by Amethystic
Well some people think that the newer ones are better. Besides, what if it never changed at all? What if it was just like the Family Portrait episodes? Boooring.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:54 pm
by KristopherWindsor
Jasper Dale wrote:
KristopherWindsor wrote:To me, the story now seems less real, and some of the drama (IE Eugene's dad) seems a bit fake.
i totally agree with the "fake" comment. something is wrong with how these stories are being told and my wife and i can't quite put our finger on it.
For one thing, when the writers focus more on humor than on the drama / storyline, you can expect the storyline to be weaker.

As for specific parts of the story... Wooton and Lester aren't really believable characters, and the odds of Eugene's dad being found were way too slim based on the hints from earlier stories. He should have been lost in Africa permanently. ;)

Also, does it seem like more adults are coming into the story? Now we have Wooton, Lester, Eugene's dad, Mitch (who may be < 18 but I doubt it), Mr. Washington, Mrs. Rathbone (who seems to be in more stories than Rodney, nowadays), Eugene (grown up), Katrina, Jason, a bunch of people from Novacom (IE Arthur Dent), and some more I'm sure.
In the past adults were mainly parents, where the kids had bigger roles in the story, or were expendable (only in a couple episodes).
Maybe the unbelievability is less noticeable with kids in the storyline. :p

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:42 am
by Agent3xq
As far as characters go, I tend to think that Wooton is a believable character. I realize that he is a silly and goofy character, but he is still has a side of seriousness and responsibility. Lester, Mitch, and Dent aren't reoccuring characters Even Mrs. Rathbone doesn't show up very much so I wouldn't really say that they have a plethora of adult characters in opposition to kid characters. I really don't think the storylines are all that "unbelievable." I think I have more emotional attachments to the older albums so I enjoy them more, but these newer albums have been growing on me a little bit.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:36 am
by Amethystic
I want to be like Wooton when I grow up. :D

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:06 am
by Over the Rainbow
Amethystic wrote:Well some people think that the newer ones are better. Besides, what if it never changed at all? What if it was just like the Family Portrait episodes? Boooring.
In my opinion, I'd rather listen to Family Portraits than a newer episode.

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:25 am
by King Butter Turtle
KristopherWindsor wrote:
Jasper Dale wrote:
KristopherWindsor wrote:To me, the story now seems less real, and some of the drama (IE Eugene's dad) seems a bit fake.
i totally agree with the "fake" comment. something is wrong with how these stories are being told and my wife and i can't quite put our finger on it.
For one thing, when the writers focus more on humor than on the drama / storyline, you can expect the storyline to be weaker.

As for specific parts of the story... Wooton and Lester aren't really believable characters, and the odds of Eugene's dad being found were way too slim based on the hints from earlier stories. He should have been lost in Africa permanently. ;)

Also, does it seem like more adults are coming into the story? Now we have Wooton, Lester, Eugene's dad, Mitch (who may be < 18 but I doubt it), Mr. Washington, Mrs. Rathbone (who seems to be in more stories than Rodney, nowadays), Eugene (grown up), Katrina, Jason, a bunch of people from Novacom (IE Arthur Dent), and some more I'm sure.
In the past adults were mainly parents, where the kids had bigger roles in the story, or were expendable (only in a couple episodes).
Maybe the unbelievability is less noticeable with kids in the storyline. :p
I do agree with that for the really new ones, like 46-50. But, I don't really think that NovaCom had a problem with this sort of thing.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:26 pm
by Jasper Dale
maybe it is a good thing that the writers are taking a break from the show and going off by themselves to think of new ideas and directions the show should take.

i think that the show has a great team of writers, but no matter how great a team you have, if you don't take a "time out" every once and a while, you "will" tend to have writers burnout.

and, truly Odyssey is one of those shows where you don't want new writers coming in who have no clue as to the mythology of the series.

that's why i was so glad when they hired someone like Hoobler. they need to find people who "love" Odyssey. there is something special about the show and i think whenever the writers go a bit off track, those of us who have been with the show for so long "feel" the difference.

let's hope that when the writers come back, there will be some great "good" twists and turns!

O:)

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:20 pm
by King Butter Turtle
Jasper Dale wrote:maybe it is a good thing that the writers are taking a break from the show and going off by themselves to think of new ideas and directions the show should take.

i think that the show has a great team of writers, but no matter how great a team you have, if you don't take a "time out" every once and a while, you "will" tend to have writers burnout.

and, truly Odyssey is one of those shows where you don't want new writers coming in who have no clue as to the mythology of the series.

that's why i was so glad when they hired someone like Hoobler. they need to find people who "love" Odyssey. there is something special about the show and i think whenever the writers go a bit off track, those of us who have been with the show for so long "feel" the difference.

let's hope that when the writers come back, there will be some great "good" twists and turns!

O:)
Quoted for agreement. (although, I'm not sure mythology was the word you were looking for :-k )

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:22 pm
by Amethystic
King Butter Turtle wrote:
Jasper Dale wrote:maybe it is a good thing that the writers are taking a break from the show and going off by themselves to think of new ideas and directions the show should take.

i think that the show has a great team of writers, but no matter how great a team you have, if you don't take a "time out" every once and a while, you "will" tend to have writers burnout.

and, truly Odyssey is one of those shows where you don't want new writers coming in who have no clue as to the mythology of the series.

that's why i was so glad when they hired someone like Hoobler. they need to find people who "love" Odyssey. there is something special about the show and i think whenever the writers go a bit off track, those of us who have been with the show for so long "feel" the difference.

let's hope that when the writers come back, there will be some great "good" twists and turns!

O:)
Quoted for agreement. (although, I'm not sure mythology was the word you were looking for :-k )
I think 'history' would be a better word, because if you slip up on even tiny AIO fact, all of us hard-cores are going to notice. :shame: Those poor writers must have to do a lot of research...

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:52 pm
by KristopherWindsor
It's "mythology" because Odyssey isn't real, and I didn't know the writers were on vacation, but that explains it. :)

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:53 pm
by Amethystic
But myths are stuff like "Santa the Magic Tooth Bunny" and all that fluff.

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:02 pm
by Agent3xq
KristopherWindsor wrote:It's "mythology" because Odyssey isn't real
You better take that back! :x

;)

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:23 am
by Jasper Dale
Agent3xq wrote:
KristopherWindsor wrote:It's "mythology" because Odyssey isn't real
You better take that back! :x

;)
it isn't? can you tell me the address of Whit's End? i'd love to take a trip in the Imagination Station! i just hope there are no vials of "rukku" lying around anywhere.....


:-

ah, wouldn't it be great if we all had a "whit's end" in our home town?


O:) O:)

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:36 pm
by Jonathan
Whit would be making raspberry ripple for me all the time (that stuff is delicious *nods*)

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:11 pm
by darcie
I'd have a daily WodFamChocSod habit. \:D/