New Plushies and Items

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:54 pm

Individuals, whether young or old, can learn to discern good from bad, right and wrong. removing minds from the gutter when they are indicated towards a particularly harmless, and safe word for all ages when accepted in concept

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There is nothing inherently wrong with the word "sexy", merely people's minds automatically are exposed to the negative effects, to which they should be educated otherwise.

Homeward bound · Post by **Homeward bound** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:16 pm

violet flower wrote:
Laura Ingalls wrote:
Taq wrote:Am I the only one uncomfortable with there being an item named "The Sexy Plushie" on this message board?
No, you're not.
Agreed!!

I must agree as well...I think that the fact that the word does have certain connotations with it that may cause several people to stumble should be reason enough to not have that word in the title.

Romans 14:13-21 (Yes, I realize this is in the context of food, but I believe it applies here as well...

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Dr. Watson · Post by **Dr. Watson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:27 pm

I am also offended/concerned about this choice of title.

Why not name it something that doesn't have strong negative connotations already attached to it?

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:30 pm

So we are not allowed to use a word that has a fine positive effect because it has a negative effect, or that most people only see the negative?

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It's a fine, morally correct word.

Homeward bound · Post by **Homeward bound** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:35 pm

I'm still not sure what the positive effect is...and if the negitives outweigh any positives for many members of this board, is it worth it?

Dr. Watson · Post by **Dr. Watson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:37 pm

What fine positive effect are you referring to? I think the normal, everyday use of the word has negative (for the Christian) connotations. Why not name it "The Handsome Plushie" or something else equally non-offensive?

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:38 pm

Sorry, the definition was on the second page, I just assumed everyone had seen it

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Alternative definition to sexy (the implication here, and the desired effect that should be adhered);

2. Slang Highly appealing or interesting; attractive.

Dr. Watson · Post by **Dr. Watson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:41 pm

Yeah, I saw it several times.

My question still stands: For a Christian, why use such borderline words that have immoral connotations? I mean you can't just declare an alternative definition and expect the normal connotation of the word to be vaporized from people's minds.

Homeward bound · Post by **Homeward bound** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:42 pm

Azariah Ben Yaakov wrote:Alternative definition to sexy (the implication here, and the desired effect that should be adhered);

2. Slang Highly appealing or interesting; attractive.

I did see it...but I don't consider it "positive", simply an alternative definition.

Besides, even that definition could stir up controversy...

edit: I must echo Dr. Watson's questions.

BrokenButBeautiful · Post by **BrokenButBeautiful** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:49 pm

SivartM wrote:*demands a SivartM plushie*

*Demands a plushie for all three of The Randoms*

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:01 pm

Oh I understand where you are both coming from

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However I suggest that innocence is greater than misapplication for what the word is used for in the sense.

Since it has been defined, one cannot let the negative connotation of the word take effect, when it has no precedence in the case.

A different word could have been used obviously, but I don't see it necessary when there is no negative impulse. However I suppose if a crowd of angry revolting individuals came at me with pitch forks, my mind could be swayed

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Homeward bound · Post by **Homeward bound** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:24 pm

Honestly, Ryan, I still don't see your arguement holding much water. You continue to say that we should simply adhere to your definition of it, and as long as we do that, it should be ok. However, you aren't going to be there to tell everyone who reads it that's the definition you want...people will read it and use whatever definition they associate with it, whether you meant it that way or not.

You have given many reasons why it should be allowed to be used but no benefits as to why it should be used over a less offensive term. Although normally it shouldn't be necessary to go this extra step, I think in this case in order to convince people to stop complaining, you will need to do so. Several members have already given good reasons that the term could be harmful. You need to give a reason that despite the potiental harm, the word is worth leaving in the name. You need to give a good reason this term is better than a less offensive term.

Unless you can come up with a benefit (not just a reason it's ok or the definition you associate with it), I maintain my request that you change the name.

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:28 pm

At the time of the design of the particular plushie, I was wanting more of a comical term, at least something we hadn't have. Unfortunately Handsome, attractive, and other seemingly useful names, but they didn't strike as "funny" I suppose you could put it, to me.

It really isn't that big of a deal, I don't mind changing it if it is absolutely necessary

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Post by **Catspaw** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:12 pm

How about the Splendiferous Plushie or the Even Awesomer Than EK Plushie or something like that?

Azariah Ben Yaakov · Post by **Azariah Ben Yaakov** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:31 pm

I'm thinking the awesomer than ek doll sounds like a good revision. An ironic one for him at that, as he was predominantly the first to buy one

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Kairi · Post by **Kairi** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:47 pm

How about the Controversial plushie?

Post by **Catspaw** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:55 pm

I love that idea, Constance!

EK · Post by EK » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:30 pm

Catspaw wrote:How about the Splendiferous Plushie or the Even Awesomer Than EK Plushie or something like that?

Well if you chose the latter then it would be a false statement...in other words a lie. And I'm not comfortable with lies on this message board, are you?

The Top Crusader · Post by **The Top Crusader** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:48 pm

I find that the administrators of this board are propogating lies to be highly offensive and ungodly.

EK · Post by EK » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:51 pm

FALSE PROPHETS!