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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:38 pm
by KODY 105
SivartM wrote:I think abortion is despicable, but you still can't deny how great the whole "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech" and such things are. People who kill babies are going to be judged for their sins, and we should try to stop them from killing babies, but I wouldn't say America is the worst country in the world. Nowhere close. There are countries where Christians are killed; I wouldn't want to live there. There are places where almost everyone on this thread would be executed for speaking against the government. So, be glad for the government you have in spite of its faults.
How long will free speech be around? Isn't Obama in support of a piece of legislation that will outlaw preaching against homosexuality? This legislation will call that a "hate crime." That is impeding the first Amendment!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:49 pm
by The Top Crusader
Plus he wants equal air time for both views... so if a talk radio station wants to have conservative talk all day (which is highly lucrative) they will have to cancel half of it and find some random liberal no one wants to hear to be on!
Some liberal company tried to start talk radio for liberals and it bombed horribly and went bankrupt.

So if Obama has his way it will just be government mandated!

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:12 pm
by hubcap
PJ wrote:Ozon wrote:Dani's blog wrote:And. All of you who think that America is the best nation on earth, go eat a sock and die in a corner. I am sorry, but, we have no rights to claim that. Because we kill BABIES, DEFENSELESS INFANTS, in COLD BLOODED MURDER!
*points to the above* That is my response.
That's incredibly rude. Eat a sock and die?? I'm sure that phrase does not please God. If one is going to debate, debate in a respectable manner. Otherwise, you display yourself as a fool.
Your reply goes to show that you do not know me very well, PJ. It was a joke. I wouldn't want anyone to eat a sock and die. No matter how awful a person I may find them. Who am I to decide who should live or die? Anywho. Now you know not to take little things that I say (like that) seriously. Though, I still don't think that America is the best nation on earth.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:19 pm
by Aram
The next four years will be interesting, to say the least. I just remind myself that there is a higher power in control.

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:22 pm
by Jonathan
The Top Crusader wrote:Some liberal company tried to start talk radio for liberals and it bombed horribly and went bankrupt.

So if Obama has his way it will just be government mandated!

I seem to recall Al Franken being involved in that
StrongNChrist wrote:Danielle Abigail Maxwell wrote:THe world has to end at one point... Why not sooner than LATER?
so that more people have a chance to come to the Lord?
It's talk like that that drove me away from evangelicalism, and, I think, is great proof against "decision theology".
We don't save people. We can't take credit for saving people. God is in control of that. We are to simply spread the gospel. If someone is saved as a result, it is due to the Holy Spirit. God takes the credit. We don't.
To say that 'I don't want the rapture to come soon---I need more time to win souls' (which I've heard people say before over at CBH) is just another way in which people confuse Law and Gospel. How depressing.
When Jesus returns (I don't believe in the rapture, btw), then everyone who is saved will be saved according to God's will.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:45 pm
by Danielle Abigail Maxwell
I agree with Jonathan... odd...
(I don't believe in the rapture either... it sounds... ridiculous anyway.)
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:54 pm
by Jonathan
Danielle Abigail Maxwell wrote:I agree with Jonathan... odd...
*laughs* I really like how that was the first word that came to mind

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:37 am
by Arwen
I do believe in the rapture; ridiculous or not, it's supported by scripture; and I believe that it will occur when everyone who's supposed to come to Christ beforehand has. God's in control over that.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:45 am
by JED
Arwen wrote:I do believe in the rapture; ridiculous or not, it's supported by scripture; and I believe that it will occur when everyone who's supposed to come to Christ beforehand has. God's in control over that.
Which scriptures?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:49 am
by Arwen
It's going to sound like a cop out, but I am unwilling to turn this topic into a debate about the rapture, simply because that's not what it's here for. A topic can be mad in CCDS, if need be, although this debate has been had time and time again.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:53 am
by Danielle Abigail Maxwell
Nice answer, Arwen. I do agree. Hey, JED, if you want to find out about it, start a topic in CCDS. Then be respectful. I'm curious myself, but I'm not going to force Arwen to say anything.

Amor, Danielle.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:01 am
by JED
Forget it. I am not going to force Arwen say anything but if she is goign to say that she believes in the rapture and has scriptural proof but then doesn't want to share it because it's going to "start a debate" that just sounds weird.
And yes Arwen no offense but that it is a cop out. All I wanted was some scriptural proof.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:03 am
by SivartM
JED wrote:Forget it. I am not going to force Arwen say anything but if she is goign to say that she believes in the rapture and has scriptural proof but then doesn't want to share it because it's going to "start a debate" that just sounds weird.
And yes Arwen no offense but that it is a cop out. All I wanted was some scriptural proof.
Her point was that this is not a rapture debate, this is a thread that
you started to talk about Obama.
So, it's not a cop out; it's trying to stay somewhat on topic.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:08 am
by JED
We went off topic as soon as she said there is scriptural proof for the Rapture.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:10 am
by Danielle Abigail Maxwell
Yes, but she is trying to stop it from going off topic.
What was this thread about?
Obama won... W00t! Now that is has been two days... I don't feel as excited. Just neutral again... man... it is too early to be up... 6:09...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:10 am
by SivartM
And we will keep going off topic until we take that topic off of this topic.
If that makes any sense at all.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:10 am
by Arwen
Actually, we went off topic before then...and unfortunately we are not any closer to getting back on topic...
Sarah Palin for president in 2012!

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:12 am
by SivartM
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:12 am
by Danielle Abigail Maxwell
I thought this was about Obama... Who says Palin will run again (I'm hoping NOT!)
Hmmm... who should run.. Mr. Perrin and... oh, Mr. Deming! Perfect match!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:18 am
by Arwen
At least it's political again...
