So now that Obama's won..

[Mark Prescott]

Well, even if you move you still have to pay the Obama care tax.

Not if she moves to Europe. Unless Obama is plotting to take over the world. Which knowing him could happen.

We live in Bermuda, (which is a British colony) and my parents have to pay Obama Care tax.

[The Top Crusader]

More like DESTROY than take over imo.

[Laurie]

More like DESTROY than take over imo.

Very true.

[Sherlock]

Ok, so as the election results were coming in, I hastily scribbled a list of places I could move based on pending invites, friends and family or some other place where I could hide out from Obamalypse 2012:

1. England or Scotland: Probably the most likely, the downside of course is that the GBP is up so, even if domestic taxes skyrocket, I'll probably still be earning less and paying more in the UK. Not to mention the council tax. Bonus? They would give me a UK Passport after 5 years. UK Passport = eligibility for SOCIAAL PROGRAMMMMMS and recourse to PUBLIC FUNDS!

2. Canada: Canada is most likely. All I need is a driver's license, I'll load up the Beetle with as much guns, ammo and canned goods as I can fit, drive across the border and live in my distant cousin's basement in the boonies, while shooting all my food and sewing clothes out of animal skin. Definitely the coolest option so far.

3. Uganda: I have an open invitation to Uganda from one of my classmates which I keep promising to honor, in the same way one promises to honor an earlier statement about going over Niagara Falls in a wooden barrel. Still, the weather is warmer, and I hear that malaria isn't such a big deal once you get used to it. Maybe I can work for the UN or an NGO or something, that would be cool. Also, no way the property taxes are higher, and I hear there is a lot of sunshine. And...giraffes. Actually that's probably just a stereotype like most everything anyone says about Africa ever.

4. India: Apart from the crippling heat, massive congestion, dust storms, traffic and ridiculous bureaucracy brought about by a legacy of British imperialism, India would be pretty sweet. The rupee is on the decline, which means a definite advantage. And with nearly 1.5 billion people, there's no chance anyone is finding you there EVER. Also I could buy like 1,000 bicycles for around $50 which is awesome. I don't even know what I would dp with that many bicycles, but it doesn't matter.

5. Sweden: Sweden would be awesome. I don't even know anyone in Sweden, and they probably wouldn't let me move there unless my name ended in "sen", but I can tack that on and try. Also, apparently it's one of those places where the welfare state is totally thriving, so you'll get all those perks without the madness and outrage associated. Also, apart from that crazy shooting spree, the Norwegian-region folks are pretty chill (no pun intended).

6. Cyprus: Some of my former classmates inherited an olive oil company there. I mean, how cool is that? I know nothing about making olive oil or Cyprus, but I figure if I sort of just show up, they won't send me home. And presumably all the olive oil I can drink!

7. Beruit. Why? BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS. Also, the weather is particularly seasonable this time of year.

[snubs]

Obamalypse 2012:

This literally made me laugh out loud. Obamalypse.. so great.

2. Canada: Canada is most likely. All I need is a driver's license, I'll load up the Beetle with as much guns, ammo and canned goods as I can fit, drive across the border and live in my distant cousin's basement in the boonies, while shooting all my food and sewing clothes out of animal skin. Definitely the coolest option so far.

I'll come with you if you do this! Only I think we should just live in the wilderness as wandering nomads.


Typo fixed. -snubs

[Sherlock]

Only I think we should just live in the wilderness as wondering nomads.

...What would we be wondering about?

[snubs]

Only I think we should just live in the wilderness as wondering nomads.

...What would we be wondering about?

I guess about the Obamalypse.

[darcie]

It was a joke darcie that's all a simple joke. There is no need to get that upset about a simple joke. Since you are that upset about it have a moderator delete the post.

If you want to say it was a joke, I have no choice but to believe you. But I'd suggest in the future that use implement some sort of way of people knowing you intend your words to be a joke. A winking smiley, a little j/k at the end. If you want people to take you for your word, you need to make it clear when not to do so. Unless you're Top.

[Laurie]

It was a joke darcie that's all a simple joke. There is no need to get that upset about a simple joke. Since you are that upset about it have a moderator delete the post.

If you want to say it was a joke, I have no choice but to believe you. But I'd suggest in the future that use implement some sort of way of people knowing you intend your words to be a joke. A winking smiley, a little j/k at the end. If you want people to take you for your word, you need to make it clear when not to do so. Unless you're Top.

Do whatever you want darcie. I have lost interest in this conversation completely and that is not a joke.

[Oba-rai]

I'm staying in the States, possibly moving to Colorado in the next four years, and attending some weddings in Maine and Washington. But Beruit sounds awesome this time of year.

It was a joke darcie that's all a simple joke. There is no need to get that upset about a simple joke. Since you are that upset about it have a moderator delete the post.

If you want to say it was a joke, I have no choice but to believe you. But I'd suggest in the future that use implement some sort of way of people knowing you intend your words to be a joke. A winking smiley, a little j/k at the end. If you want people to take you for your word, you need to make it clear when not to do so. Unless you're Top.

Do whatever you want darcie. I have lost interest in this conversation completely and that is not a joke.

Because passive aggressive statements are awesome.

[jasonjannajerryjohn]

Guam is a part of the US. But you don't get to vote for President because it's not a state.

The District of Columbia can vote, but they aren’t a state.

That is correct. It's mostly because Guam and the other territories are treated as colonies, not part of the US.

[Baragon]

I can't move peeps, I have to work even harder now to pay for my healthcare fine that is coming up. SO BE HAPPY YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE.

[darcie]

Your job doesn't provide healthcare?

[The Top Crusader]

Your job doesn't provide healthcare?

They offer a poor healthcare plan if you are willing to give up about 2/3rds of your pay... so its relatively pointless.

[jasonjannajerryjohn]

Your job doesn't provide healthcare?

They offer a poor healthcare plan if you are willing to give up about 2/3rds of your pay... so its relatively pointless.

And whose fault is that? The business she works for. The government had nothing to do with that, I would like to point out to you conservatives in the audience. ;D

[Whitty Whit]

Your job doesn't provide healthcare?

They offer a poor healthcare plan if you are willing to give up about 2/3rds of your pay... so its relatively pointless.

And whose fault is that? The business she works for. The government had nothing to do with that, I would like to point out to you conservatives in the audience. ;D

What if that's the best the company can offer due to restrictions placed by the government or something?

Just pointing that out.

(I highly doubt that any company will offer it's employees the best they can do, but I'm pointing out that the company can only do so much because of the government sticking its paws into citizen's (whether the employer or employee) healthcare and economy)

[jasonjannajerryjohn]

Your job doesn't provide healthcare?

They offer a poor healthcare plan if you are willing to give up about 2/3rds of your pay... so its relatively pointless.

And whose fault is that? The business she works for. The government had nothing to do with that, I would like to point out to you conservatives in the audience. ;D

What if that's the best the company can offer due to restrictions placed by the government or something?

Just pointing that out.

(I highly doubt that any company will offer it's employees the best they can do, but I'm pointing out that the company can only do so much because of the government sticking its paws into citizen's (whether the employer or employee) healthcare and economy)

Keep in mind the greedy nature of companies and corporations. Greed is one of humanities most pervasive instincts. We thrive off of accumulating things and lording how many things we have over others. Ever since humans started using agriculture, we've been doing this. That's the reason why government regulations on business are there in the first place, to keep that human greed in check, and make sure real people get real wages. Or try to at least. Sure, some of it may not work, but there are always exceptions.

Let's go back to the Industrial Revolution and see what it was like with no restrictions on business.

[Whitty Whit]

I really don't watch those videos...

So you're in favor of the governments putting restrictions on business?

[jasonjannajerryjohn]

Ya, see, I post videos for a reason. There's actually good information in them, and you might learn something.

But yes, I am in favor of putting restrictions on business like the minimum wage, which should probably be higher, or environmental regulation, so businesses don't completely destroy the only planet we have right now, or labor laws, so that businesses have to have a standard for employee environments, basically so employees can't die on the job. Or minimum age laws, so we don't have child labor. And many other things. No regulation on businesses is not a good thing. There has to be something there to protect all the ordinary people and the environment from our greed.

[darcie]

They offer a poor healthcare plan if you are willing to give up about 2/3rds of your pay... so its relatively pointless.

That's just silly. And interesting since their employment website brags about their benefits.

What if that's the best the company can offer due to restrictions placed by the government or something?

I know the company she works for and don't really believe that. They, like so many others, thrive on a part-time employment force that doesn't qualify for benefits while giving their CEO a large pay raise and extensive bonuses. It's the culture of employment these days.