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The Ultimate Harley and remake Thread

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IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE!!

Intro

I know smiliar thread have been disscsuused in the past, but...

Anyway, here is where we discuss all about Harley episode remakes and why Focus decided to pull these great (you heard me) episodes. :D

List of episodes...

from AIOWiki, here is the articls about Harley and his 19 episode include...
  1. Lights Out at Whit's End
  2. Gifts for Madge and Guy
  3. Promises, Promises
  4. Doing Unto Others
  5. Addictions Can Be Habit-Forming
  6. The Tangled Web
  7. Bobby's Valentine
  8. Missed It By That Much
  9. Recollections
  10. The Case of the Missing Train Car
  11. The Quality of Mercy
  12. Gotcha!
  13. Harley Takes the Case, Part 1
  14. Harley Takes the Case, Part 2
  15. Rumor Has It
  16. Peace on Earth
  17. The Return of Harley, Part 1
  18. The Return of Harley, Part 2
  19. The Adventure of the Adventure
My take

I thought it would be interesting if I shard what I thought about each of these episodes. The rating refers to what I thought of the episde...

Lights Out at Whit's End
9/10

I loved this episode because it was the first Harley and it was never remade.

Gifts for Madge and Guy
10/10

Thi episode only has small portions of Harley and was never remade. However, I think there are some deleted scenes that were used for some airings that included Harley.

Promises, Promises
8/10

This episode orginally ahd two scenes with Harley. One with Harley showing kids "how to safely load a mouse trap" and the other is is a debate with Tom about chosing Ice Cream. The current cut of this episode is very short due to these massive cuts.

Doing Unto Others
6/10

This episode was remade as Isaac the Benevolent. It is exactly the same except for character switchs...

Harley > Eugene
Linda > Lucy
Johnny Bickle > Isaac Morton

Addictions Can Be Habit-Forming
7/10

This episode joins the club of those not remade. This is the only episode that I agree has a good reason to be pulled. It was very weak. Harley held up someone with a pickle.

The Tangled Web
10/10

This is the second Harley were he was thrown out. The orginal episode had Harley as the poilce man come over, and the remake had their neighbor Harry Snoopnagle com over before the poilice. This has one of the funniest episode scenes ever with Harley.

Bobby's Valentine
6/10

This one was remade as The Trouble with Girls. Differences include...

Amy Duran > Jessie Morales
Bobby Novak > Jimmy Barclay
Jeff (a) > Curt Stevens

Also an extra scene was added to the begining of the remake which adds George Barclay.

Missed It By That Much
8/10

Another remade episode:

Rachel Weaver > Robyn Jacobs
Frank Weaver > Dale Jacobs
Mrs. Weaver > Ann Jacobs

and Harley's "spots" were replaced by Jessie Morales, although she had completely different lines.

Recollections
10/10

This episode was never remade msot likely because it was such an important storyline episode. Hiwever, it shows lots of stupidity on Harley.

The Case of the Missing Train Car
9/10

Remade as What Happened to the Silver Streak?.

Harley > Curt
Tom Riley > Doreen Charles
Warren Summers > Traci Needlemeyer

Interesting to note that Tom was the one who took Michelle in in the orginal version. This episode also mentions agnes for the first time. Finally, the ending is changed from Whit apoligizing to Whit saying, "Hasn't your time here meant anything to you?"

The Quality of Mercy
7/10

Remade as An Act of Mercy.

Harley > O Ryan
Scott Williams >Rodney
Robbie Holt > Peter Holt (may be they're brothers :wink: )
Bill Williams > Bart
Ben > Jimmy

This episode has some great material that was taken out. My favorite is connie's exchange with whit about, "...Heard from Thelma Gardner..."
where connie lists lots of poepl who heard Harley's poilice car.

Gotcha!
10/10

This episode plot proved to be important later so the creation of the bible room was made into It Began with a Rabbit's Foot..., and the practical joke part into Pranks for the Memories. In it:

Philoio > Curt
Harley > O Ryan
Sylivia > Lucy

This episode orginal had O Ryan's joke abou the dog on top of the water. Harkey interrupts Chris on the rap up and tells her the punchline, "I see your dumb dog can't swim!"

Harley Takes the Case, Part 1 / Harley Takes the Case, Part 2
10/10

This episode has proved to be the hardest unreleased episode to find. It was remade as Missing Person:

Steve Larson > Rodney
Harley > O Ryan/Issac
Al Larson > Bart

Several cuts and changes were made from orginal to remake including changing the carnival to the state fair. Several interview scenes were cut, a scene were Harley an Steve are trapped in the barn and wild dogs com by.

Whit remarkes in this episode that thsi was Harley's last case in Odyssey and that they were standing in his driveway saying goodbye, but he would back to give a motorcycle ride to Steve Larson...

Rumor Has It
8/10

This is the only Harley episode I don't have, sadly :( . I do have the version were Harley was cut out in album three, but not the orginal, so I can't make any observations.

Peace on Earth
8/10

Harley only appears breifly at the end of this episode with an amfull if firewood for the Barclays.

The Return of Harley, Part 1 / The Return of Harley, Part 2
9/10

...Now Harley comes back to give Steve his motorcycle ride. He gives it to Jack Davis instead. This episode was remade as The Boy Who Cried 'Destructo!':

Harley > Harlow
Jack > Lawerence

I can't make any observations here either because I've heard "The Return of Harley" but not the remake.

The Adventure of the Adventure
7/10

This episode is an episode full of flashbacks and has the scene from "Recollections" where Tom and Harley visit Whit.

Spoofs

By Faith, Noah
9/10

The permit man says "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Curious, Isn't It?
10/10

Eugene talkes to Harley on the phone.

A Thanksgiving Carol
12/10

Stooge gets a visit from "Jacob Arley" which is so funny!! \:D/


Remakes

AIOWIki has a list of remakes...

Lights Out at Whit's End and Addictions Can Be Habit-Forming where the only Harleys to ve aired once and never remade or heard on the radio again.

Gifts for Madge and Guy, Recollections, Peace on Earth, and The Adventure of the Adventure are the only non-remade Harleys.
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Wow, you put a lot of work into this, Irwin! =D>
In "The Case of the Missing Train Car" I think you meant Traci Needlemeyer, and not her actress Brooke Bellessi.

My favorite episode where Harley has a large role is "The Return of Harley." \:D/
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Shawndlay wrote:Wow, you put a lot of work into this, Irwin! =D>
In "The Case of the Missing Train Car" I think you meant Traci Needlemeyer, and not her actress Brooke Bellessi.

My favorite episode where Harley has a large role is "The Return of Harley." \:D/
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Thanks. I like the return of Harley too. I would have never put Jack and Harley together, but I guess they met each other in Rumor Has It. \:D/
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Irwin for Lord Blackbeard wrote:Thanks. I like the return of Harley too. I would have never put Jack and Harley together, but I guess they met each other in Rumor Has It. \:D/
I don't believe I've heard the Harley version of that show either. :-k
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In fact I don't know anyone who's heard it. I also know very few people, including me, who have Harley Takes the Case.
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Great job on the list!
I have to admit that I'm actually glad they remade these epsidoes because they are much better done especially actor wise with Curt, Lucy, Isaac, Jimmy...etc than with the original characters even though Harley isn't in them :(
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Agent3xq wrote:Great job on the list!
I have to admit that I'm actually glad they remade these epsidoes because they are much better done especially actor wise with Curt, Lucy, Isaac, Jimmy...etc than with the original characters even though Harley isn't in them :(
A few of the remakes don't give the don't give the orginals justice though. These include "Missing Person" and others. But mostly Missing Person.
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Looks like you've got an exhaustive list there, Irwin! =D>

In A Thanksgiving Carol, the Harley-like ghost also says, "Ignorance of the law is no excuuuuuuuuuuse" [fade].
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Taq wrote:In A Thanksgiving Carol, the Harley-like ghost also says, "Ignorance of the law is no excuuuuuuuuuuse" [fade].
Yeah, that's under "spoofs" \:D/
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Where did you manage to find all the Harley tapes? On Ebay?
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IForgotMyUserName wrote:Where did you manage to find all the Harley tapes? On Ebay?
First, The Odyssey USA album off ebay which gives:

Lights Out At Whit's End
Doing Unto Others
Bobby's Valentine
Missed It By That Much
Promises, Promises
The Tangled Web

From Odyssey Fan:

Gotcha!
The Return of Harley

and these from someone who managed to find them:

Harley Takes the Case
Addictions Can Be Habit Forming
The CAse of the Missing Train Car
The Quality of Mercy
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Ohhh. I never caught the Jacob Arley connection. :anxious:

That was very interesting, Irwin. Thanks for sharing.
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GlennAdams wrote:Ohhh. I never caught the Jacob Arley connection. :anxious:
It's funny about the "chains" he had to carry. \:D/

I got to thinking and thought that it would be so cool if they brought Harley back after Hiatus. \:D/
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Wow, very comprehensive, Irwin! :clap:

I don't know if I can genuinely say that I like Harley as a character, but as a true Odyssey fan, I will pay big bucks to get all the episodes he's in! ;)

I rather like "Missing Person"... though I haven't heard the original, 'tis true.

My favorite Harley episode is probably "The Return of Harley"; it was strange hearing Jack play a role I had so long associated with Lawrence. Also, loved the scenes with Whit teaching Connie how to drive!
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LizzieG wrote: Also, loved the scenes with Whit teaching Connie how to drive!
I also get the feeling they sort of "re-used" these scenes in "A Licence to Drive" :D
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Taq wrote:Looks like you've got an exhaustive list there, Irwin! =D>

In A Thanksgiving Carol, the Harley-like ghost also says, "Ignorance of the law is no excuuuuuuuuuuse" [fade].
I always thought that was Harlow :-k
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Harlow wasn't introduced until a few albums later. :(
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Like mr. whit, I had always thought that it was Harlow, and it didn't make sense when Chris said something about how it was nice to hear a familiar voice from the past. I didn't listen in order, so to me it was a current voice! It wasn't until a few years ago that I realized it was supposed to be Officer Harley!

Great list, Irwin. :D You are clearly a dedicated fan!
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Irwin for Lord Blackbeard wrote:
LizzieG wrote: Also, loved the scenes with Whit teaching Connie how to drive!
I also get the feeling they sort of "re-used" these scenes in "A Licence to Drive" :D
*agrees* :yes:
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Catspaw wrote:Great list, Irwin. :D You are clearly a dedicated fan!
THanks. :D

I try to be a very dedicated fan
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