Dr. Watson wrote: HOWEVER, even if we sin, even if we do not ask forgiveness for a particular sin, we are still under the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
I think this depends on whether God tells us to repent or not. Obviously when we gte saved for the first time, you can't make restitution for every sin you've ever committed.
However, we cannot obtain that perfect holiness in this lifetime! The Lord is constantly sanctifying us as we grow and mature.
I don't think that we can obtain perfect holiness. Not the perfection of God or even of Adam. What I'm trying to say is that people can't willingly sin and go to Heaven.
I spent 5:30 to Midnight at a huge Christian rock festival; headbanging and moshing. If I had died on the way home, would you think I'd go to Heaven or heck?
What's "head-banging" and "moshing" mean? No, if God hasn't told you to stop listening to rock then you wouldn't go to heck. I'd appreciate it if everyone would stop asking whether I think they would go to heck or not. If anybody does, I will not answer. It's God's job, not mine, to decide where people go when they die.
Ayn Rand wrote:Saying your friend is going to be tossed into heck for lying is making a rule;
Actually that's God's rule, not mine. "All liars shall be cast into the lake of fire."
Termite wrote:Except when we sin then die shortly after without repenting, cause then He tosses us into heck?
If we said "No, I'm not going to repent." If we were on our way to repent or something, then no.
We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
In response to the above verses:
Albert Barnes wrote:The remainder of this chapter has been the subject of no small degree of controversy. The question has been whether it describes the state of Paul before his conversion, or afterward.
We're not sure whether he was talking about before he was saved or after. But when you read 1st John (I'm still waiting for someone to explain all those verses by the way
) it's pretty obvious that you can't willingly and consistently sin without repenting and be a Christian.
I agree. Paul's point is that we can't attain perfection through following the law--that it is by God's grace we are saved. But he wanted to correct any assumptions people may have had that they could sin all they wanted, letting them know that they should still seek to do what is right, despite being drawn to do wrong. If we go about sinning after we have become Christians--as if it doesn't matter--it shows that we haven't had a necessary change of attitude and that we don't really love God or seek to know him. But if we seek God and seek to correct our wrongdoings and seek to obey Him, we show that we have a real relationship with God and are indeed saved. And like Ayn said, God will show mercy on whom He wishes--God knows our hearts and knows if we are/will be repentant (i.e. if we die while in the middle of a sin, He knows if we were directly disobeying Him and knows if we would have continued to blatantly disobey or if we would have come back to Him in repentance afterwards).
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Paul sinned constantly. Every single person that ever existed with the obvious exception of Jesus. Was is and shall be in the habit of sinning constantly! 
You cannot stop. You will sin again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again. Have I made my point. 
That's a lot of frantic emoticons.
God isn't an angry ogre sitting on a cloud waiting to strike us with lightning when we mess up. We shouldn't constantly live in fear that we might step out of line. That's not what I'm saying at all. But when we do commit a sin (tell a lie for example) we should say "God, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that. Please forgive me." and then apologize to the person you lied to. You don't have to constantly be looking over your past worrying whether you ever showed a bad attitude or went a little over the speed limit. God will show you what he wants you to make right.
You're contradicting yourself, buddy.
