Maybe that's because Obama is so much worse!!The Top Crusader wrote:Anyway, a little more on topic... Bill Clinton is doing a good job with his speech at the DNC as I type... seriously if he was the typical democrat politician I would give a lot more thought to their party... he's pretty reasonable. I remember thinking he was THE EVILEST LIBERAL PRESIDENT EVER when he was in office but now he seems a pretty chill moderate dude basically.
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If this was what you heard... did you actually hear what was spoken, or did you just hear what you expected from the speaker? Our own personal feelings tend to influence how we feel, regardless of the actual words. Just food for thought.~JCGJ~ wrote:All I heard was basically, "I want to live in a country where women have the right to kill their babies. Where no-one is "intollerent" to anybody, and where God doesn't have a place in society.
God Bless you everyone!"
Barriers for Active Listening | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8066022_barrie ... quote]Bias toward a speaker can include judging a speaker's mannerisms, appearance or background. This can distract listeners from the content of a message by focusing more on the messenger than what is actually being said. Listeners should make an effort to put the message in the forefront of their minds and ignore the characteristics of the speaker.[/quote]
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Naw but I heard the same thing in Obama's speeach, "God bless America, you have the right to choose who you want to love. You have the right to choose to have an abortion. God bless America but He doesn't have to mess with our rights."
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I only heard a clip, and I think it was from Obama, and I heard basically what JCGJ said about abortion. I also heard a woman who declared the incredible anomaly that "rape is rape". (I know she didn't mean it the way I jokingly took it, but I make the same comments about pro-homosexuality slogans. )
I voted for Top and EB, but it was really close between them and Ewokbar.
I probably wouldn't be voting for Obama (if I were of age to do so, anyway) simply because of the social issues and because of the poor decisions the White House is churning out. I don't know much about either candidate (I don't generally touch politics with a ten-foot pole unless it directly crosses over with history), so I can't really "discuss" until I really take a look at them both, but I thought I'd show my conservative support.
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I voted for Top and EB, but it was really close between them and Ewokbar.
I probably wouldn't be voting for Obama (if I were of age to do so, anyway) simply because of the social issues and because of the poor decisions the White House is churning out. I don't know much about either candidate (I don't generally touch politics with a ten-foot pole unless it directly crosses over with history), so I can't really "discuss" until I really take a look at them both, but I thought I'd show my conservative support.
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Democrats give better speeches than Republicans.
Well then DEFINITELY don't go listening to any Republican speeches.I want to hear a speech where they address the problems our nation has, and they actually present viable ways to fix these problems, without shifting the blame on someone else, or complimenting someone who has done no good for our country...
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I really, really loved the prayer that Miss Jena gave at the end of the DNC's first night. It was exactly the message that America needed to hear. It was truly a beautiful thing
*insert provocative quote here*
Ability to make a speech is a big plus factor for any candidate, but what really concerns me is whether the candidate actually DOES anything based on these lovely speeches. And sadly, with the state of American politics as it is, the answer is generally "no." So speeches really don't impress me. Actions impress me and, in that arena, both parties fail miserably.
Whether it's hope, change and peace, or prosperity, jobs and free markets, in the end it's really all just a load of nonsense.
Whether it's hope, change and peace, or prosperity, jobs and free markets, in the end it's really all just a load of nonsense.
I agree 100%Sherlock wrote:Ability to make a speech is a big plus factor for any candidate, but what really concerns me is whether the candidate actually DOES anything based on these lovely speeches. And sadly, with the state of American politics as it is, the answer is generally "no." So speeches really don't impress me. Actions impress me and, in that arena, both parties fail miserably.
Whether it's hope, change and peace, or prosperity, jobs and free markets, in the end it's really all just a load of nonsense.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln
without shifting the blame on someone else,
Romney blames Obama. Obama blames Bush. Continual cycle that will never end. I'd love to see Romney and Obama play musical chairs... because that's what they do.
Also, I listened to the convention and I thought Obama's speech was really well done. Stirred up the base, which was the point. I did NOT hear women want to kill babies. They'd never use such language in the first place.
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My claim to fame is that she went to college in the city I live in and she is good friends with someone I know!Musical Shutterbug wrote:I really, really loved the prayer that Miss Jena gave at the end of the DNC's first night. It was exactly the message that America needed to hear. It was truly a beautiful thing
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I only watched about fifteen minutes of it........I couldn't take it.
I intended to watch the speeches, and then I forgot.
Anyway, this picture that I saw on Facebook sums up politics perfectly.
Anyway, this picture that I saw on Facebook sums up politics perfectly.
But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
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Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
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Man if only someone had started a topic about general discussion of the election... >_>
Yeah, why didn't you?The Top Crusader wrote:Man if only someone had started a topic about general discussion of the election... >_>
Dr. Watson wrote:The main reason for the Civil War was so that rednecks can drive around with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks.
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You definitely didn't hear Paul Ryan's speech. Epicly awesome!Kait wrote:Democrats give better speeches than Republicans.
Peachey Keen wrote:You definitely didn't hear Paul Ryan's speech. Epicly awesome!Kait wrote:Democrats give better speeches than Republicans.
Except for the fact none of it was factual!
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I think we should overthrow the government and take over.
Anyway, I intend to vote for Romney and Ryan. I'm hoping they may actually try to reduce our deficit, although I won't be surprised if that doesn't happen lol.
Anyway, I intend to vote for Romney and Ryan. I'm hoping they may actually try to reduce our deficit, although I won't be surprised if that doesn't happen lol.
But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue. --Hamlet.
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Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
StrongNChrist ~ Remembered Forever
Men who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with. --Stoic the Vast
Let's go down together for one more chance. The skeletons are screaming for one last dance. --Hawthorne Heights
Tell 'em turn it up 'til they can't no more. Let's get this thing shakin' like a disco ball. This is your last warning, a courtesy call. --TFK
You have nice manners for a thief and a liar. --Smaug
I know you mean well, but leave me be. Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free. --Elsa
Now that he hasn't been the president for awhile, I think everyone can look back retrospectively and concede that he did a pretty good job. Plus, his presidency was right before/when everyone started getting so super extremist, so he's such a middle of the road guy as compared to how today's politicians are forced to be.The Top Crusader wrote:Anyway, a little more on topic... Bill Clinton is doing a good job with his speech at the DNC as I type... seriously if he was the typical democrat politician I would give a lot more thought to their party... he's pretty reasonable. I remember thinking he was THE EVILEST LIBERAL PRESIDENT EVER when he was in office but now he seems a pretty chill moderate dude basically.
If Top and EB were on the ballot, I would totally vote for them. Instead I voted for people that actually have a chance.
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Which is politics as usual.Kait wrote:Peachey Keen wrote:You definitely didn't hear Paul Ryan's speech. Epicly awesome!Kait wrote:Democrats give better speeches than Republicans.
Except for the fact none of it was factual!
But, I do think the Obama people should use the GM plant to their advantage... he should come out and be like "The Republicans want to paint me as a big government guy but I didn't demand the plan to be reopened."
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My wizardry has merged the topics.Baragon wrote:Yeah, why didn't you?The Top Crusader wrote:Man if only someone had started a topic about general discussion of the election... >_>
And LOL at fact checking the fact checkers.
But Romney was right about his plan creating jobs.